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New member withdraws from community

"TOUCHE" OL CHAP!

1983 MK1 PIRELLI EDITION

Alpine White LHD ("SOLD")

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dubstar74 said

Benici said

I posted a question in the 'Big Block Injection Engines' section 8 minutes ago! Why has no-one answered it????

Due to this lack of help I feel I have no choice but to withdraw from this forum and community. Good day.



 :lol:

what i dont know about engine work…
is worth knowing about

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And this is exactly why. Look at the attitude of the posts. You have a guy here who got scammed on eBay and then led to this clubs forums by the scammer. The scammer was identified as a member here. I had proof that he had used the clubs name to threaten me with and no one followed up like they said they would from the admin team.

All the people givin it "didums" ect, just puts me off even further. TBH if thats the attitude you get when you have a clear case where a scammer has "harrassed and threatened" a new member of your community then I'm definately better off elsewhere.

I dont blame the site. I do think that when you get a person reporting that a member of the club is engaging in activities that it is a club matter. Tell me, if you got scammed then told to come to a forum for advise and then this happened to you despite having 100% evidence of the violence threats on me and my house, insults to my missus, use of the mk1 club name as a threat etc, would you turn up to a meet?

And then if you tryed to engage the community which was being tarred by that brush and got a bunch of "funny b4st4rds" taking an opportunity to make light of someones misfortune, what would you think.

To the few out there that pointed out it isnt the clubs fault and had some empathy, thankyou. However I still think its a club issue based on the emails I have here, which stilll havent bee checked by the moderators.

Sometimes you think why bother. And thats exactly what reading this thread made me think.

Moderator time spent sorting it out??????? did you ever get back to me with a place to send the full emails and headers?

For all i know the people givin it "diddums" could be shauns mates. Even more reason not to go to a meet.

Dont wanna get robbed, harrased and then risk a bad scene on a day I would rather be enjoying looking at dubs. So really, is it a club issue if someone has been intimidated to the point of withdrawal by an identified member of the community?

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Bolo said

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Tell me, if you got scammed then told to come to a forum for advise and then this happened to you despite having 100% evidence of the violence threats on me and my house, insults to my missus, use of the mk1 club name as a threat etc, would you turn up to a meet?

Whilst I have every sympathy for your bad e-bay experience, one must always remember the maxim, 'buyer beware'.

Leaving that aside the matter of allegd threats of violence and threats to commit criminal damge to your property are a matter for the police, whilst they should be reported to the moderating team, what do you expect them to do beyond banning the forum contributor concerned - note the clear delineation here, 'forum contributor', not club member. this is a public forum and as such is subject to all the mysanthropy that any dealings with the general public brings. Even should the alleged offender prove to be a ,Club memebr', I'm not sure what you expect to happen beyond there censure and banning.

If you have evidence of criminal offences being disclosed e.g deception, harrasment, threats to commit criminal damage, then you should report them in the first instance to the police.

However 'whinging' to all and sundry will achieve nothing and does nothing to strengthen youir case. announcing to all  that you are leaving a forum will invariably be met with the inevitable response of, ' oh dear how sad never mind'.

Not withstanding my comments I am genuine in my sympathy for your plight, but i feel that you have gone about the matter in entirely the wrong way. someone misusing the name of the Mk1 Golf owners club is of concern, but in actuallity there is very little the club itself can do to prevent anyone doing that. You appear to be tarring everyone with the same brush , whilst behaving like a petulant child.

I sincerely hope that matters are resolved to your satisfaction.

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Bolo said

And this is exactly why. Look at the attitude of the posts. You have a guy here who got scammed on eBay and then led to this clubs forums by the scammer. The scammer was identified as a member here. I had proof that he had used the clubs name to threaten me with and no one followed up like they said they would from the admin team.

All the people givin it "didums" ect, just puts me off even further. TBH if thats the attitude you get when you have a clear case where a scammer has "harrassed and threatened" a new member of your community then I'm definately better off elsewhere.

I dont blame the site. I do think that when you get a person reporting that a member of the club is engaging in activities that it is a club matter. Tell me, if you got scammed then told to come to a forum for advise and then this happened to you despite having 100% evidence of the violence threats on me and my house, insults to my missus, use of the mk1 club name as a threat etc, would you turn up to a meet?

And then if you tryed to engage the community which was being tarred by that brush and got a bunch of "funny b4st4rds" taking an opportunity to make light of someones misfortune, what would you think.

To the few out there that pointed out it isnt the clubs fault and had some empathy, thankyou. However I still think its a club issue based on the emails I have here, which stilll havent bee checked by the moderators.

Sometimes you think why bother. And thats exactly what reading this thread made me think.

Moderator time spent sorting it out??????? did you ever get back to me with a place to send the full emails and headers?

For all i know the people givin it "diddums" could be shauns mates. Even more reason not to go to a meet.

Dont wanna get robbed, harrased and then risk a bad scene on a day I would rather be enjoying looking at dubs. So really, is it a club issue if someone has been intimidated to the point of withdrawal by an identified member of the community?

What did eBay do when you reported it to them?

                                

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Bolo said


 use of the mk1 club name as a threat etc,

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Bolo,  In what way did the scammer use the mk1 owners club as a threat

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B.O.L.O.

Blame Own Losses on Others

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Bolo said

I dont blame the site.
Yes you did! And its members! Your post was the first I heard about it. I'm sorry you've had a bad e-bay experience and that someone who pointed you here is a bad egg.


Bolo said

So really, is it a club issue if someone has been intimidated to the point of withdrawal by an identified member of the community?
No, it's a police issue. If you're that rattled by it, report it to the police.

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The communications ceased through ebay promtly for a space of a few days, then he came back with more of the same. I reported that and theres been nothing since.

Foxy, totally get your point, put yourself there in the situation. Missus reads the emails over your shoulder and starts callin the police herself on the evening it happened. I had a barny with her over it as I said that the guy had threatened yes, but I'd be aswell to hit hit where it hurts by reporting it to ebay and to the sites where he was advertising, perhaps get some justice on the moses level rather than have to spend hours dealing with statements to get no where with the police and have our lives interuptted.

Be real about it, think what who you do if an individual did this to you. Think about what youd do if someone starting talking about your missus like shes a piece of trash, so yeah, maybe gone around it a bit the wrong way, maybe it is a matter for the police, but im damn sure that if anyone read the mails I got they would distance themself after recieving no support, regardless of the vengful motive.

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you cut your own throwt wen you started this thred,  as for saying i have no soul on another thred after i oferd some1 help, thats messing with my money mate, i fututer i would think carfuly about you put in your posts or even you threads,  your asking for trouble attacking people,

its not our fault mate

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Bolo said

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Foxy, totally get your point, put yourself there in the situation…

Um, did you actually mean me? Since I suggested the police? I'm guessing you did…

Your life has already been interrupted. If he is doing something illegal, you cannot expect forum administrators to be the police just because you can't be arsed with the hassle.

As for someone hassling my missus…that aint going to happen in a hurry unless I turn lesbian, which also aint going to happen in a hurry. But if it was me, yes, I'd report it to the police. If it's worth the time you've spent complaining about it on here, it's surely worth the paperwork.

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how much money did u lose bolo

maybe we could have a whip round

rebuild in progress....

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Bolo, you joined the owners club to ask questions about items you were buying off Ebay, the scammer may also have joined the club to help convince people he was genuine trader on Ebay, the club cannot know whether a member is genuine or not, it can only take members at face value that they have an interest in the mk1's.

If a conman knocks on your door and says he's from the water board  and come to check the supply and then robs you, who do you blame for the crime? the water board (who had nothing to do with it) or the conman?

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having just seen another of your posts on the mot thread i just want to ask you when are you gonna do what u said in the title and WITHDRAW FROM THE COMMUNITY!! ie stop posting

rebuild in progress....

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yes cabriolet,ive just read the mot post,i was going to offer a ?5 for the bolo rip off fund  but now ive seen his reply sod him,please unregister and join the ebay forums  :lol:
Bert

Thats not a rod knockin,its a diesel stupid! floppy top and 1 tin top

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i think it's in your best interest, to take your head out of your arse and have a look around. you do have an apology to make, though i'm sure you'll disagree, so make your peace, leave the ebay business either at home, or with the fuzz and maybe you'll get some forgiveness and a fresh start from a friendly helpful group of mk1 loving enthusiasts. use the site for what it's intended. helping people to enjoy thier mk1's.

personally, i think your a naughty man and would be quite happy if you'd just shut up and go away. but that's a bit selfish of me and would not be in your best interest. these are friendly people, try offering them some curtesy

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Bolo said

The communications ceased through ebay promtly for a space of a few days, then he came back with more of the same. I reported that and theres been nothing since.


How can you fault the club then, when you've independently complained to both us and eBay, and both have taken the same action? I'm afraid there is no higher appeal, than complaining to the mods and allowing them to come to a decision.

                                

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The Moderators , rest assured have been watching this tread and have already discused this unfortunate incident but the conclusion is.



 'As the transaction took place through Ebay,it is nothing to do with this site .  The police should have been informed. Especially if the alleged threatening behavour took place. Seems like we've been dragged into an argument that really is none of our business'



The Moderator team .

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