Confusing Ride Height/Camber Issue
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Video demonstrates the camber change as I move the car back and forward. Use the vertical side of the garage door as a datum.
Mk1 Golf Camber - YouTube
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1981 Golf CL 1.3
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Top Mount Movement 2 - YouTube
Top Mount Movement 1 - YouTube
1981 Golf CL 1.3
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Wish I could offer some ideas but I'm completely stumped.
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find a friendly MOT garage and ask you can put your car on and see if anything moves?
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1987 Alpine White 1.8 Clipper Cabriolet
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1987 Alpine White 1.8 Clipper Cabriolet
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my MOT man has a device that shakes and rattles the front suspension in all directions, you drive over some plates on the 4poster ramp and they do the business
find a friendly MOT garage and ask you can put your car on and see if anything moves?
Everything that would be traditionally identified as having play is new. Top mounts, struts, ball joint, bottom arm, both bushes. There is no play in the one adjustable track rod end. Everything is torqued to the book. The only play I have identified are the top mounts as shown on the videos but this is the same (a bit worse) with the old top mounts and appears to be intentional with the design of the bearing. I'm still wondering if the track is wildly out with the new parts that the tyre is being forced outwards at the bottom causing the strut to tilt inwards (the top mounts would allow this) therefore giving a lot of negative camber. Then as the tyre continues to rotate it moves back to its original position and the strut tilts back outwards again. I didn't want to mess with the track until I had resolved this but the two could be connected so I might just try this.
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The issue was indeed due to excessive toe in. I had put off measuring the track until I had the camber sorted but should have done this much sooner. It measured a huge 4 degrees toe in. No wonder the force on the tyres was pushing the top of the wheel in therefore tilting the strut and altering camber/ride height. With the toe set at 1 degree out (total) the ride height and camber both remain constant. I need to tweak the camber a little bit again then recheck the track but it's just fine adjustment now and will be easy.
What a frustrating time it's been. Thanks for all of the suggestions throughout the lengthy process.
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The tyres are at least 25 years old although have never been on the road. They will be replaced once I've completed the rest of the work. I've been through a final round of camber and track adjustments and everything is spot on now so I'm very happy to have completed this part of the work. I've trundled around the yard a few times and it all seems to be settling down nicely.typ_53b said
I'm glad you found the problem. Something to explore when l get round to fitting my new springs hopefully next year. How old are your tyres, by the way? I wonder if that would make a difference to how the suspension behaves. I certainly noticed a big improvement in ride and handling when I replaced my 28 year old Michelin MXV2 tyres 4 years ago


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