Project Sleeper - Mk1 Golf 20vT AEB... Now Runs :)
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Project Sleeper - Mk1 Golf 20vT AEB... Now Runs :)
Looking forward to the updates! Did you keep the alloys it came on in the first picture?
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Madone with the two Cabs 82 (UK RHD) and 85 (US LHD) (92 sold)
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GaryGTi83 said
How did you fix this bit, any more pics??
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paul_c said
GaryGTi83 said
How did you fix this bit, any more pics??
I had to cut around the whole section as it was rotten, but luckily avoiding the tapped hole above for what i beleive is the seatbelt retainer bolt. I then put in a new piece of steel and rewelded it back in. It was caused from holes left behind when the rear spoiler had been removed.
I will try find a photo of the work when i cut it out
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I loved having the ABF engine in, but the power and reliablity im after, the ABF is going to cost me far too much money
to achieve this goal. I will rebuild my ABF eventually but while the car is under construction, it will have to wait for now.. :redfaced:
I have managed to source a AEB engine from the volkservice garage in Thornton for £400. This seems to have the 2.0v coil pack aswell which i believe is the correct one when the early coilpacks were recalled for replacement.
I'm thinking of getting the head modified for better flow with wilder cams but ive heard this engine has the larger ported head anway :dontknow:
Has anyone modified the heads on these engines/cam work? Is it worth doing, or is it just upgrading the turbo/aftermaket ecu which is most common? I have read somewhere i few guys boring them out to 1.9-2.0L but it think these are engines pushing 400hp where as im only looking for around 300hp… ONLY
Has anyone here fitted a hybrid turbo or had any cleareance issue with this engine around the manifold?
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The engine is from a VW passat automatic and has the AEB stamp on the cylinder head. The AEB is the engine which uses your original mk1 mounts, so in theory should fit straight in :dontknow. The AGU requires a drivers side engine mount where as the the AEB doesn't… or so im told
I checked the Block Number - 058 103 021 E - and it is coming back as the ADR block, which is slightly confusing. Think i may have to check this again.
http://www.clubgti.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=220746
Here are a few more pics of what ive been upto on the car
Old Fuel Filler Neck
New Filler Neck
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More pics to follow soon
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I have managed to strip down the AEB (20vT) this week, to find some rather intresting things
Throttle Bodie off the AEB inlet manifold
AEB Cylinder Head with Rocker Cover
AEB view on the Inlet Ports - Glad to see they are the larger ones
Exhaust Ports on the Cylinder Head
Picture of the Oil pick up pipe. When converting into a mk1, when you change the sump the original pick up pipe wont fit.
Option 1 - Buy AGU Sump with oil return from turbo and pick up pipe
Option 2 - Use my original ABF Sump, drill hole for oil return. Not sure if i can use the pick up pipe from the ABF or not. Seems to only be a 5mm difference to the AGU?? :dontknow:
Picture of the ADR/AEB Block showing, what i think is the Crank Sensor and Knock Sensor
Drivers side Engine Mount offered up against the block - Seems only 3 holes will line up though :roll:
Here is the original Exhaust Manifold they use on the 1.8T (APR). I've read they are very restricitve so thought id take a look while it's off
Wow…. Ok so i think the exhaust ports are around 38mm-40mm on the engine, and i barely got my thumb down the manifold.. hence very restrictive. Think i will be looking for an upgraded one either from VW if they do one or an aftermarket.
Anyways here is the car so far
My Friends VW Bettle
Ahh yes and for anyone who wants to know what tool you need to take the cylinder Head Bolts out…. :mrgreen:
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So with the block now painted, I need to pick more parts for the 1.8 AEB 20vT Conversion
Starting with
G60 - 02A Gearbox
K03 Turbo
AGU inlet manifold
100mm Driveshafts
When i came to change the AEB oil pick up pipe, it seemed i had ordered the wrong one off an agu engine. I think this is in reference to which year the engine was made. I'll let the pictures do the talking…
This is the AEB oil pick up pipe, which when used hits the bottom of the agu or abf sump, hence why it is changed.
On the Left is the brand new AGU pick up pipe, on the right is my mk3 ABF pick up pipe, as you can see the boss size is different from one
another.
and the diameter size of the pipe
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AGU Pick up pipe ordered
As i am just replacing the pick up pipe, the AGU pick up would not fit. I think its becuase my engine was from an early year built car, where was the agu may have been built a few years after for this pipe. Not to worry though, as the ABF pick up fits perfectly.
Just out of intrest, i did try fitting the ABF oil pump and it fitted no problems, and appears to have a very similar shaft size and pattern to the AEB.
Having said that i left the AEB one in it.
I have also decided to use the ABF sump for this project, so i will just need to weld the 'correct' boss this time :mrgreen:
You can just the oil cooler on the front, which i borrowed the bracket from my abf engine so the filter sits in the correct position.
After this, it was now time to fit the gearbox, flywheel, clutch etc
Gearbox shift plate and bearing
VR6 Flywheel
Sachs Clutch and Pressure Plate installed
Can anyone see what ive forgotten to put on …. and its not the gearbox
Moving away from the mk1, i've decided to start looking at the mk4 OEM loom which i will have to research into. If anyone can be off assistance here it will be much appreciated. So far i have this
If anyone has any links or advice to help splice my mk1 loom into the mk4 it would be very appreciated. Also if any one the above is wrong please feel free to mention :redfaced:
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GaryGTi83 said
Oh dear, off that all comes and on goes the metal gasket! Do I get points for getting it right??????
GaryGTi83 said
Moving away from the mk1, i've decided to start looking at the mk4 OEM loom which i will have to research into. If anyone can be off assistance here it will be much appreciated. So far i have this
If anyone has any links or advice to help splice my mk1 loom into the mk4 it would be very appreciated. Also if any one the above is wrong please feel free to mention :redfaced:
As far as that lot goes, I am having the same nightmare at the moment!
The following links are very helpful! (I assume you are using OEM management?)
ClubGTi 1.8T OEM Wiring
CE1 Fusebox Pinouts
ALL CREDIT TO RUBJONNY FOR THE LINKS!
Car is looking top by the way mate! Sorry it took a while to reply to your build thread! It has been a very long few weeks
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1982 Mk1 Golf GTi 3 Door 1.8t - Build Thread
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Joe90k said
GaryGTi83 said
Oh dear, off that all comes and on goes the metal gasket! Do I get points for getting it right??????
GaryGTi83 said
Moving away from the mk1, i've decided to start looking at the mk4 OEM loom which i will have to research into. If anyone can be off assistance here it will be much appreciated. So far i have this
If anyone has any links or advice to help splice my mk1 loom into the mk4 it would be very appreciated. Also if any one the above is wrong please feel free to mention :redfaced:
As far as that lot goes, I am having the same nightmare at the moment!
The following links are very helpful! (I assume you are using OEM management?)
ClubGTi 1.8T OEM Wiring
CE1 Fusebox Pinouts
ALL CREDIT TO RUBJONNY FOR THE LINKS!
Car is looking top by the way mate! Sorry it took a while to reply to your build thread! It has been a very long few weeks
1000 mk1 points for Joe
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GaryGTi83 said
1000 mk1 points for Joe
WOOO! 8)
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2015 Mk7 Golf R 2.0 TSI 4motion DSG
2011 Caddy Maxi Kombi 1.6 TDi
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Great work Gary Did you need any filler on that rear arch..??
Look forward to hearing how the OEM electrics go
Keep up the good work mate..
\/\/ The beast to be…!!! (loads of pics) \/\/
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ShaunyC said
Snap..!! lol
Great work Gary Did you need any filler on that rear arch..??
Look forward to hearing how the OEM electrics go
Keep up the good work mate..
hah, yes a little :mrgreen:
Luckily most of the rust was completely cut out and new pieces of steel welded in. In the end i bought
New Rear Panel
2 x Front Wings
2 x Doors
2 x inner repair panel
2 x out repair panel
and…. the sunroof was only just nearly repairable. lol
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As im using an 02A gearbox setup - two new engine mounts are required. Both purchasable from crazyquiffs
1x passengers side mount
1x rear gearbox mount
So engine's on the hoist and everyones worse nightmare… it doesn't fit. The Rear mount doesnt work!!
A phonecall to crazyquiff's, and neil assures me he will sort it straight away, but i couldn't really waste anymore time. So i decided to slot the mount to allow for the new holes. The end result is 8)
The only issue after the install i found, was using the orignal AEB exhaust manifold and turbo. The reason for this is, the turbo housing catches on the bulkhead just above the steering rack.
Now i think i know why they change the manifold and possibly the turbo :dontknow:
Fear not my fellow MK1 20vT beleiver's there is a way around this :twisted:
This is how the engine was left tonight…
Very happy with todays progress Next is the loom and coolant pipework :roll:
Here's another classic picture of an old school motor at the warehouse.
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