2e engine conversion

Right then chaps and chappesses,
 ive bitten the bullet and gone a got my self a 2l, 2e bottom end, which im gunna couple up with a rebuilt and modified DX 1.8 gti head, which will also have a newman, road rally cam 280deg duration.
anyhoooo, what exactly will i need to alter in the swap, i know ive got to retain and use my gtis oil pump and bottom pulley.
 what else do i need to do?
 im in the dark when it come to what needs altering on the dizzy aswell.
 which head gasket should i use?
  plus theres a blanking plate i need from (perhaps) tsr but at ?150+ seems rediculously expensive!
oh yeh, which cam belt should i use, being a taller block n all that!

 any ideas or thoughts then that would be sweet

 I know there are other threads on this but cant seem to find the relevant info.


cheers 8)

Hi mate I'm doing a short block conversion on mine here is the link.

kins conversion

For the tall block there are issues with exhaust manifold catching on the bulkhead or steering rack (if your'e running a 4-branch/tubular type). You need a exhaust manifold spacer. (available from TSR)

The oil filter housing has different bolt holes so you need the correct housing.

The breather hole at the front of the block can be blocked of with a blanking plate. If you're planning on using and audi 5 cylinder WUR you can make a bracket to bolt it to the block and block the breather :wink:

You need a spacer ring to fit your distributor (again avilable from TSR)   The final drive cog needs swapping for the 2.0 one too.

The golf sump needs to be fitted.

You can use 1800 or 2000 head bolts. They are stretch bolts so need to be new.

Fit a multi-layer, metal, head gasket from a 2 litre as they are more reliable than the composite type.

I thinks thats about everything…….

Hope this helps and if you need any help get in touch.

Cheers Karl

cheers for the reply kins.
 right, not wanting to be the forum dunce, but what exactly is a 5 cylinder audi WUR???? :?
 im going to be using the standard manifolds etc, do you think there will be any fouling as i am unsure whether you mean that you get fouling if you use a 4 brancher or not?
 ive requested a broucher from tsr, is everything in there?

 has anyone here done the 2e swap? if so anything i should know before i dive in!!!

 cheers

Heres a thread with an explanation on the WUR.

AUDI WUR

I'm not sure if the standard cast manifold will catch on the bulk head :dontknow: . I doubt it would impinge on the rack. It's just that most people who do the conversion add a performance manifold as it gives a big gain that's why I mentioned it as a problem for a tall black.

oh right cool,
 thanks for the speedy reply.
dont think i can afford the extra expense of a performance manifold???

 if anyone has a piccy of a fitted WUR from a 5 cylinder audi then that would be cool so i could visulise it.

 cheers

I looked into that conversion for a car running digifant injection (MK2) but i'm not sure of parts you need for a k-jet. Sounds like Kins knows his stuff and it may also be worth having a look on the Club GTI forums as a few people on there have done that conversion I think. If you decide a short block conversion is easier I know someone who may take the 2E off your hands ops:  :wink:

now ive found it, i think im gunna persue it!!!
 but i will have an original 1.8 gti engine for sale. with a spritely 177 thousand miles on it!
 so just run in really!

Pm sent . More sort of a book really .

cheers for the essay geezer! top notch!
 im sure your knowledge will come in handy when im mid swap!

 im having troubles finding the kit from tsr though, all i can see is the 3a kit which is ?165!!!!!!!
 where did you get the 45 quid one from?

 plus i notice your based in south wales, you should come along to the south west meet in feb, be good to have a look at the finished product!

 cheers

Jon

I'ld like to see your car too

youd have to join the south west massive for that to happen kins!!!
 you know it makes sense!

Mate I'ld rather shove wasps up my a$$ than turn to the dark side! :starwars:  
Wales is a tough one and the west has to fight for its members. Come and join us geezer you know it makes sense!

NWM rule ok!

i thought my dad wore funny clothes!

 
never knew it was because i was from devon???????
 
 shebaite :wink:

Jon-Boy said

cheers for the essay geezer! top notch!
 im sure your knowledge will come in handy when im mid swap!

 im having troubles finding the kit from tsr though, all i can see is the 3a kit which is ?165!!!!!!!
 where did you get the 45 quid one from?

 plus i notice your based in south wales, you should come along to the south west meet in feb, be good to have a look at the finished product!

 cheers

Jon

When and where ?
Got the kit from tsr i'll have a look in my reciepts box.
No worries on anything you need.

Jon-Boy said

cheers for the essay geezer! top notch!
 im sure your knowledge will come in handy when im mid swap!

 im having troubles finding the kit from tsr though, all i can see is the 3a kit which is ?165!!!!!!!
 where did you get the 45 quid one from?

 plus i notice your based in south wales, you should come along to the south west meet in feb, be good to have a look at the finished product!

 cheers

Jon

When and where ?
Got the kit from tsr i'll have a look in my reciepts box.
No worries on anything you need.

yo dude,
 the meet is on sunday 12th of feb, anywhere from midday.
 check out the the post in regional meets, SWM7.
its in taunton, we have a chap coming down from hereford so very multi regional!!! plus we have a load of chaps come from bristol so you will probably see them on the way down!!!

 if you look on the tsr website, then the blanking plate is under the bore and build categorey.

 cheers
 Jon

I be like nato i'll turn up to both just to keep everyone happy . :wink: Not wearing a beret though so don't ask .

Jon that kit from tsr was ?60 inc vat and is listed on my reciept as-
1.8-2.0 distributer ring               ez/2.0con1
1.8-2.0 breather bung round       ez/2.0con2
1.8-2.0 breather plate                ez/2.0con3

Those are the tsr part numbers

hope that helps

I was going to have a local machine shop make up some copies for me because i though that ?60 was a bit on the steep side but i run out of time .

Kins i will check the posts for the northwest meet too.

cool, be good to see the finished article.

 can i ask how long ago you bought the kit?
 just so that i dont sound like a complete nerd when i ask for it for 60 squid!!!!!

 cheers

Aug 2004 , has it been that long ? though i bought them last year .Tsr don't usually put their prices up too much so its gotta be worth trying.

ok cool,
 ive requested a broucher from tsr, so hopefully it will all become clear!
cheers for your advice so far mate.

 Jon