16v abf dizzy cap and fire order.

Hi all, trying to get my 16v convo to run and i have used an abf dizzy cap. I removed the locating notch to allow it to point upwards.

I followed the firing order from the FAQ that is going around but it doesn't seem right.

Im sure i have seen a modified picture showing the correct firing order.

any one got any input on the order teh leads should com off the abf cap?

i think it should look like this from above


24
13

but the faq has it as


31
42

If you ask me the first plug to spark should be no1 just after no 1 bore is at tdc?

input is appreciated.

The 1st order you think it is looks right, i'll have a look tomorrow for ya!  

spot on mate,

think its the first one also as managed to get some life out of it with the help of some cold start spray.  

Starting to think that although the injectors spray at full wack on the metering flap they are not giving enough fuel when the flap is only up a tiny bit - i.e trying to start etc.

maybe get some new injectors - not like i have not spent enough all ready  

 8)

Are you refereing to this one:





that'll be mine!  And you're right, I haven't labeled it in Cylinder Order.

When I labeled it I was just doing it for reference between the two images, I can't believe it never occured to me to refer to them in conventional cylinder order.  ops:

Also can't believe noones pointed it out to me before!

Anyway, apologies thats my bad, i'll change it!.

Dave

Hello mate,

Nothing to say sorry about! brill FAQ - just confused me is all  


Mainly as i started with no cap so noting to refer to.  8)

cheers

hi can any one help me i need a dizzy cap for my 16v conversion as im useing the mk1 brake set up and it hit i need one that pionts up
any help would be great

Theres a few options mate.  I used the ABF cap, cut the locating notch out and point it upwards.

http://www.pbase.com/dgawen/dizzy_cap_change

theres other options but I can't be arsed to find the links right now…

To be honest you're best off doing the valver m/c  and servo change anyway, doesn't cost much.

u mean the abf 16v engine dizzy cap

Thanks Mr Manic, spot on!!

check out my build thread.  8)

has any one got the code  for this cap as i carnt find one thanks

cheers ive got a abf dizzy cap and it fits sound i have not took that notch out  but it still sits were i want and i can get the plugs on .
so all is good thanks for the help  

just a quick question…

do the numbers on the dizzy caps refer to the cylinders the HT leads go to?

yes, #1 cylinder being the timing belt end. in addition to the info in this thread if you're running an abf cap on a kr, simply rotate the dizzy 180 degrees. that way you dont have to chop up your cap. only issue is you need a longer king lead from an 8v mk2 or similar. either way works but i just prefer not to chop up caps

Just digging up an old thread, Ive done all of the above, with my mk1 9A but can still only get it started with the standard cap on, and the brake cylinder disconnected.

With the ABF cap, it will just pop and grunt on cranking. With the standard cap it fires up and runs for a few seconds then dies, but that is with the dizzy right on the end of its adjustment.

I have had KR cams fitted. All new ignition parts.

Any help??

the abf cap is a tricky one, I usualyl fail on the first try so just keep moving the leads round 1 till it fires up