Indicators Flashing Too Fast
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I prefer my Cabby front wings without side repeaters, like the tintops, & have covered the holes up with badges. What are my options to stop the indicators flashing too fast?
1. Keep bulbs fitted in repeater wiring & tuck away behind wing
2. Solder repeater wiring into front indicators wiring
3. Anything else?
1. Keep bulbs fitted in repeater wiring & tuck away behind wing
2. Solder repeater wiring into front indicators wiring
3. Anything else?
Last edit: by Cushti
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Local Hero

Sounds like you have yours modified differently than I am used to over here. The Side repeaters as you call them are for the marker lights only (parking lights)
There is a thread on the web to turn your side markers in to Side flashers. so that may key you in to how to undo that which would make them flash at the proper speed.
Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply
There is a thread on the web to turn your side markers in to Side flashers. so that may key you in to how to undo that which would make them flash at the proper speed.
Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply
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Old Timer

From what I remember when I deleted my old polo g40 side repeaters is that they dont effect the flash rate on the main indicator lamps anyway.
Pull the bulbs and see for yourself
Pull the bulbs and see for yourself
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Might be getting somewhere now & the side repeaters was just a red herring I think from searching more FAQs, hence title change! I have fitted leds on the front as I've gone bumperless so one thread has now lead me to think the problem is different wattage. So I might need resistors to slow flash rate down?
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Ok, found it. Need to fit some 50w 6ohm resistors to each front led to slow flash rate down. Thanks for helping
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Local Hero

LED's on the Front?
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Old Timer

Yes you will.
Fitted numerous ones to bikes over the years when changing indicators
Only thing I would say about them is dont leave indicators or hazards on as the resistors can get very hot
Fitted numerous ones to bikes over the years when changing indicators
Only thing I would say about them is dont leave indicators or hazards on as the resistors can get very hot
Current rides:
2003 BMW 330d Manual Saloon Msport
1985 GTI cabriolet black edition (42k miles)
1999 Triumph Daytona 955i Post apocalyptic, rat, brat, scrambler, steam punk, cafe racer
2003 BMW 330d Manual Saloon Msport
1985 GTI cabriolet black edition (42k miles)
1999 Triumph Daytona 955i Post apocalyptic, rat, brat, scrambler, steam punk, cafe racer

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Local Hero

50Watt 60 Ohm resistors are rather large and need a heat sink screwed to metal usually…..
As a OBTW, some LED units have a resistor inbuilt in them they are usually the more expensive ones, and in the lighting section of my Autoparts store they sell "add on" resistor kits, and LED flasher relays. While I don't think the relays are prone to work in the VW's it might not hurt…..
The Relay itself is similar to a toaster, that it uses a bi-metallic spring and a heater to warm up so it can oscillate between cycles for a given value of resistance in the wiring and OEM bulb filaments. Since there isn't any real impedance (resistance measurement of filaments expressed in Ohms) on a LED that is why you get the quick flash similar to a regular Incandescent based regular bulb being bad.
Too many years of Electronics…..
As a Caveat, I too jumped at the chance to replace all my clock bulbs with Ho'made led's in the sockets, LED's weren't available at the stores yet and the issue that I had originally was that the LED's weren't either bright enough, or didn't have the pattern of a Incandescent Bulb. Now they are making Cree Lights and LEDS that Diffuse the light but the original issue that I had was that with in 3 weeks of each other all the "Super Bright" leds that I used burned out….. I re-engineered them to produce less light (changed the value of the resistor) they lasted longer but all went out about the same time, that is Console, Gauges and such that I gave up and replaced with newer Long Life old fashioned Bulbs, and that was 7 years or so ago….
Whilst I agree that placing them in your house, reduces your electric bill, mine dropped 50 dollars USD a month. they aren't subjected to the vibration, and such and tend to last a good while, I don't think I replaced a CFL but one time, and after I converted to CREE or LEDS, I haven't replaced a Bulb in YEARS…. my two cents on and off topic.
As a OBTW, some LED units have a resistor inbuilt in them they are usually the more expensive ones, and in the lighting section of my Autoparts store they sell "add on" resistor kits, and LED flasher relays. While I don't think the relays are prone to work in the VW's it might not hurt…..
The Relay itself is similar to a toaster, that it uses a bi-metallic spring and a heater to warm up so it can oscillate between cycles for a given value of resistance in the wiring and OEM bulb filaments. Since there isn't any real impedance (resistance measurement of filaments expressed in Ohms) on a LED that is why you get the quick flash similar to a regular Incandescent based regular bulb being bad.
Too many years of Electronics…..
As a Caveat, I too jumped at the chance to replace all my clock bulbs with Ho'made led's in the sockets, LED's weren't available at the stores yet and the issue that I had originally was that the LED's weren't either bright enough, or didn't have the pattern of a Incandescent Bulb. Now they are making Cree Lights and LEDS that Diffuse the light but the original issue that I had was that with in 3 weeks of each other all the "Super Bright" leds that I used burned out….. I re-engineered them to produce less light (changed the value of the resistor) they lasted longer but all went out about the same time, that is Console, Gauges and such that I gave up and replaced with newer Long Life old fashioned Bulbs, and that was 7 years or so ago….
Whilst I agree that placing them in your house, reduces your electric bill, mine dropped 50 dollars USD a month. they aren't subjected to the vibration, and such and tend to last a good while, I don't think I replaced a CFL but one time, and after I converted to CREE or LEDS, I haven't replaced a Bulb in YEARS…. my two cents on and off topic.
What do Divorces, Great Coffee, and Car Electrics all have in common?
They all start with GOOD Grounds.
Where are my DIY Links?
They all start with GOOD Grounds.
Where are my DIY Links?
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Its the resistance of the LED indicators. It's too low hence the speed increases.
Either and resistor is needed or a simpler solution is one of these
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CF14-3-Pin-Adjustable-LED-Flasher-Relay-Car-Turn-Signal-Indicator-Blinker-RASK-/153086507937?hash=item23a4aabba1
Ian
Either and resistor is needed or a simpler solution is one of these
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CF14-3-Pin-Adjustable-LED-Flasher-Relay-Car-Turn-Signal-Indicator-Blinker-RASK-/153086507937?hash=item23a4aabba1
Ian
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Thanks for all the advise guys. The resistors I got worked but the leds just didn't look right for me in the end (they were the cheap stick-on strip ones).
I ended up fitting the reverse trailer lamp types into the chassis leg ends & just have to swap the clear bulbs out for amber:
I ended up fitting the reverse trailer lamp types into the chassis leg ends & just have to swap the clear bulbs out for amber:

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