Roof lining

Hi all just brought myself a new headliner for the golf, and was wondering if any of you nice folk had any good tips for fitting? do i need to clamp the headliner where it folds around the window aperture while the glue sets? if so what did you use? and also pictures would be great cheers

Yep need to clamp it while the glue sets, bulldog clips are favourite for this, you know the office stationary type, pm me with an email address if you need pics  

Cheers dude thats great ill send my email now just been on eBay for bulldog clips would 19mm ones do?

Make sure you use a High Temp Contact adhesive too.
Some glues can come undone in hot weather and remember the roof will conduct a lot of heat too.

The trick with HTC and most contact glues is to coat both parts and leave to flash off so they are tacky to touch but won't stick your fingers. Issue being though once you put the 2 parts together they stick proper.
You can use a hair dryer to speed the glue cure time on the surface you've glued but the timing is critical as you don't want it bone dry..

Cheers lads ill have a crack at it 

You will need lots and lots of clamps to hold the headliner in place.

I've used mole grips but they can damage the roof lining I've they are old or have sharp edges.

Cheer for all your help I've got 100 bulldog clips on their way in the post 

How you doing Mathers? Did you go ahead with this yet ? I've had the pleasure twice of  doing this twice,when I restored it initially and once again  after I removed my sunroof .an absolute barsteward to do .If I had the choice of taking an engine out and fitting headlining I'd take the engine out each time. Quick question ,is there underlay/foam in the area around the parcel shelves up to the roof ?in other words the whole boot are up to the roof, and also the in around the sun visor ? I glued my rooflining in and you can see the the metalwork  seat belt holes I think they are underneath.The other headlining I had was from Volksvarehaus and was much thicker .don't buy this people by the way its absolute daffodil  its way to thick and too hard to form and tuck in around the window seals.Thanks Man

Sorry ,meant to post this pic elsewhere

Please look after my blog page 23.

http://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/forum/index.php?page=topicview&type=view&id=101748&start=440

Though I had somebody fit the headlining for me, I was his lacky, I was amazed that apart from a bit of spray adhesive now and again at the back rear quarters, the guy used 3Ms Refix tape and masking tape instead of the usual contact adhesive and bull dog clips.

No sticky fingers and quite a clean operation.

We did use a Newton commercial headlining, quite light, it could be attached and repositioned as required using the 3M tape.

You can see that I did not have the front screen fitted when the headlining was fitted and not a bulldog clip in sight.

When finally fitted there were a few transportation / fold creases which have disappeared completely.

Hope this helps.

Thanks Malcolm , YEs I took all the glass out of the car. I was trying to find out if theres any underlay/sound deadening under the headlining above either side of the parcel shelves?Your picture post no. 1478728 dated April 5 .It hasn't got any .Also my cars a 3 door so the pillar where the drivers and passenger seat belts attached does this have underlay?Thanks Ger

No, the only sound deadening was on the roof. I suggest that none of this touches the headlining when it is fully installed.

There was no sound deadening on the C pillars, this was the only area (towards the bottom) where some spray adhesive was used.

Once the headlining is fitted, fitting the seat belt fittings and parcel shelf mounts required a little searching as to where they should fit. A neat X cross cut by the upper seat belt mounting hole and small amount of material removed was all that was required.

The same applies to the interior light, drivers mirror and sun visors.

Hope this helps

My Mk1 Scirocco has a sort of foam fitted to the C pillars underneath the headliner?






 

Malcolm said

the guy used 3Ms Refix tape and masking tape instead of the usual contact adhesive and bull dog clips.

Malcolm, do you know what 3M tape it was. Spoke to 3M's technical department today and they can't advise a tape for this application. Most likely looks like 3M 9088FL , 3m 9088P or possibly 3M 300LSE but don't know really.
Starting headliner next week and rally don't want to use contact adhesive.

Hi,

A few links:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3M-Refix-Tape-/120859144487

https://www.vikingtapes.co.uk/collections/3m-refix-tape-950

http://www.dbpaints.co.uk/other/641-6506.html

Hope this helps.

Oh, another thing on the Contact Glue…. As mentioned use the High heat kind, and if it says easy clean-up with water, it isn't going to last either…. you are looking for Water-Proof…..

You need the good old fashioned smelly stinky get you high if you sniff it glue that cleans up with lacquer thinner.  

Amazing goop makes a Plumbers variety, that is water proof, but I don't think it comes in a spray.

Perfect. Thanks Malcolm

One last thing, I have had the idea of, but never tried it.
The Fibre boards can Break, Get Water-Logged, and turn to paper.

While I have replaced the headliners on different cars over the years, but not my 81 Diesel,  I have a couple of things to add besides smelly glues.  

I have repaired them with Pop-Cycle Sticks, Nylon Woven Dry-wall Tape, JB-weld, and the like over the years where edges were knackered, bent…. Warped due to age/moisture.. Getting them new is a advent in hunting for hen's teeth and the Holy Grail.

 But now as old age is here I have had the Dastardly thought of the next one that goes in a car of mine, is to use the old one as the template, to re-create it out of corrugated plastic sign material.  It doesn't weigh any more than the original fibre, the corrugation makes it stronger, and can be heat bent, or cut.   It comes in two widths over here… Really thin, and Thicker wich is about double the size.

I was looking for some 1/8 inch staples for my Door Cards,  and perchance stopped by a sign maker….

We started to BS as one is want to do, and he mentioned that a Friend of his is using Sign stock as Canvas for his Paintings It came in 4X8 foot sheets… DING, DING, DING,  all kinds of alarms were going off as to using this as the fibre board replacements for Door card backings, then headliners…  So I just tuckered it away, and just now had a re-rememory…. for what it is worth.