Back, with no MK1 :(

I'm back, but i didn't get a chance to go an see that mk1. I'm guessing it's sold now though, but i've just tried contacting the seller.

Just thought i'd post and see if people could help.

I'm after a 1.1 5 door mk1. It's got to be 5 door, and most preferably 1.1 due to insurance.

I've definately got my mind set on one, so sometime in the near future i'll own one.

if anyone see's anything going around, kindly do let me know.

Thanks.

Have you been watching EBAY & Mobile.de :?:

I'm on eBay nearly every day, this car has got to be rare. I'm not even asking for much.

5 door, 1.1?  :cry:

I've been looking for sometime aswell. Whats mobile.de? i'll check that out now. thanks.

Be great if people could please keep their eyes peeled.

I've posted in like 3 forums now.

Edit:- Just tried that mobile.de site. Not very useful since it's pure german. I'm not looking for an import either.  

Page can be viewed in english http://www.mobile.de/cgi-bin/index_cgi.pl?sprache=2 you can search any country, handy site to know and i know there are usualy some sweet mk1's on there  

storm81 said

Page can be viewed in english http://www.mobile.de/cgi-bin/index_cgi.pl?sprache=2 you can search any country, handy site to know and i know there are usualy some sweet mk1's on there  

@storm81
there has been some serious Mk1's on there recently :roll:  8)  8O

I'm really not looking to import an MK1 since i haven't got that sort of money.

If people could kindly keep theirs eyes open if they come across one.

Many thanks,

My on going search continues.    :cry:

Has it got to be a 5 door kapur? Seen a few about on ebay and the likes but always seem to be 3-doors

Fortunately, it's got to be a 5 door.

It's why my search is so hard, because it's got to be a 5 door, and it's got to be a 1.1


Just a quick question.

How much do people on here think this car should go for:-

Black MK1, 5 door, 1.1
Serviced by VW Specialist for 25 years
95k on the clock

I really don't want to be spending too much on a car, i actually thought of an mk1 when i nearly bought one for ?100, and it was a bargain. BUT, that deal didn't pull through unfortunately. Now my passion has grown for the car, but i still don't want to spend alot.

kapur said

How much do people on here think this car should go for:-

Black MK1, 5 door, 1.1
Serviced by VW Specialist for 25 years
95k on the clock.

I thought Black was a gti only colour???

As for your question - A 25 year old mk1, 5 door, 1100cc… About ?50 I reckon!

But what about an mk1 with the spec i've listed?

I thought it would have been slightly more?

I'm not sure, he said it's black. I've yet to get more details, only just replied to him.

kapur said

But what about an mk1 with the spec i've listed?

I thought it would have been slightly more?

I'm not sure, he said it's black. I've yet to get more details, only just replied to him.

I have an '83 5-door 1.1 in Black (Don't get excited, it's in Ireland, doesn't run at present, and is a bit tatty - I just mentioned it to prove that they do exist, but I'd reckon they would be fairly rare)

The exact price you agree on is going to be based on the overall condition of the car:

I wouldn't pay more than ?50-?100 if it has rust, torn/missing trim/interior, is smoking, needs paintwork, etc, or any combination of these issues.

But if it's a good example (with a good service history, it seems), has minimal wear for it's age, and hasn't been crashed/repaired, then I would give up to ?300 - ?400 (if it's a really mint example, and you want it badly enough)

Despite it's rarity, and your need/desire for a 5-door 1.1 (in this good colour), I wouldn't pay more than ?400 unless you are going to show it, and it's good enough to do that with.

Just my opinion, you may have other thoughts on a fair price….

ah ok, thats cool, thanks for the reply.

I'm thinking of around ?200, so it's in between all that, not sure if he'll accept, so i'll have to wait and see how much he wants.

Bearing in mind we're both uni students, money is a problem.

I got excited, but then you said your from ireland and it's not running.  ops:

Damn, you've had/got quite a few mk1's, checking your list.  8O

AL_Mk1 said

I thought Black was a gti only colour???

When I was 19 I had a 1.5GL Mk1 in black (original!)

I'm stuck for looking for a 1.1, because of insurance. Even my quote on a 1.1 was pretty high, but it's lower than most the cars i've had a quote on.

I saw a 1.1 in black for sale, it went for about ?600, was in mint condition, someone had posted it on a forum. Unfortunately that was way out my league.

By the way, does anyone think that an mk1 with 56k miles, but a lost service history can reach ?1000? Not forgetting it's a 1.1 only.

Honestly, some people are just way too optimistic.

[cynical] Every car with no service history has a perfect one that is just "lost" [/cynical] :wink:  - even with a full service history, it would want to be concours, and have a famous previous owner to get ?1,000.

Yes, I've got quite a few golfs - here's a pic (the black one is third from the right). However, of the ones in the pic, only 2 or 3 would pass an MOT right now. My brother is driving the third & fourth ones in the list below (jammy git!)

I see a 5 door. Yummy.

Could you get some detailed photos of your 5 door models? I'm looking for a wallpaper for my desktop.

Also, could you get me some photos of the 1.1 engine please?

By the way, would you say the 1.1 is better than the 1.1 formel e?

Any major differences you could describe?

Not sure if these pictures are suitable for a desktop wallpaper - (these cars have been outdoors for nearly a year, and are not looking very "glamorous"!)

I realised that I am getting confused with all of the Golfs - the Black 1.1 is actually a three door  ops: . The brown one pictured here is actually a silver car, painted brown with a brush, and has a con-rod sticking out of the side of the engine block! However, the body is perfect under all the paint (no rust at all!), and it was FREE. It also has a nice Dublin reg (KSI 433), rather than the 83 D… plate on the other car, which indicates that it is an import (originally a UK car, registered in Kent on a Y plate). I am tempted to sand it and respray it in silver again, and drop in a GTI engine…

The Formel E (Formula E - E for Economy) was a car with a slightly different 1.1 engine with a higher compression ratio (more torque) and a gearbox with slightly taller 1st,2nd,& 3rd gears, and a much taller 4th gear (marked as 1,2,3,E on the gearknob). You also got the "LED & Needle" consumption gauge, which also comes with all 1.8 Mk1 GTIs.

The idea was that you could use only the first three gears around town (fine to drive with the taller gears, because they are balanced by the higher torque), and only use the "E" gear for higher speed cruising on faster roads. I think that the early ones also had a system whereby the engine turned off if iding for more than ten(?) seconds, and restarted when you pressed the accelerator, but this concept was a bit scary for most buyers, so it was discontinued. (VW tried this idea again in '93/'94 with the Mk3 Golf Eco-matic TDI, but it bombed again - looks like the Prius is the first (modest) success).

The big issue with Formel E cars is that the higher compression ratio needs 98RON fuel to avoid pinking, so they may be more expensive to run. A popular conversion is to put a 1.3 Golf engine into a Formel E to get the economic gearbox with the added torque of the 1.3, but using 95RON fuel (but this may not suit your insurance situation).

The engine code for the regular 1.1 is GG, and the 1.3 is GF - can't remember the code for the formel E, but also look out for the consumption gauge to spot one.

Hey Type17,

Thanks for the reply and the photos. The photos are great. Anything to fill my background with an MK1. Especially a 5 door.

I've come across a 5 door MK1, it's in light metallic green, but the owner says that the engine may need skimming over.

It's a non runner, got any idea how much i shall be looking to spend for this?

It does sound great condition wise, but it's currently not running. I'm worried that something has really blown, else wise, it'll be great for myself.

Also, the documention with the car says it's a 1.5, but the dvla computers suggest it's a 1.1. What should i go with? and where is the engine number?

Thanks for helping through-out this post, your help has been greatly appreciated.

kapur said

Hey Type17,

Thanks for the reply and the photos. The photos are great. Anything to fill my background with an MK1. Especially a 5 door.

I've come across a 5 door MK1, it's in light metallic green, but the owner says that the engine may need skimming over.

It's a non runner, got any idea how much i shall be looking to spend for this?

It does sound great condition wise, but it's currently not running. I'm worried that something has really blown, else wise, it'll be great for myself.

Also, the documention with the car says it's a 1.5, but the dvla computers suggest it's a 1.1. What should i go with? and where is the engine number?

Thanks for helping through-out this post, your help has been greatly appreciated.

Firstly and most importantly for you, I'd check it for rust. I've noticed that some of these light green metallic cars seem to rust badly, while others are much the same as most other colours, so check carefully (although the "bad" ones are very obvious)

The engine number is at the top of the block, just under the head gasket, and on the side of the engine that faces the radiator.
If it the engine is knackered, it would be easier to get a 1.1 engine from a breakers (the Mk1 and Mk2 Polo engines are almost identical and will fit a Golf without any modification).
If the car has a 1.5 engine, one of the engine-mounts on the body will need to be moved, and the gearbox, gear-change mechanism, and some of the wiring loom, won't suit your desired 1.1 engine. It might be easier to look for a car with a small-block engine.

You can recognize the small-block engine (1.1, 1.3) versus the big-block engines (1.5, 1.6, 1.8 ) because the small ones have the circular air filter housing at the rear of the engine (see brown car above), whereas the others have a square one there (carburettor) or a remote one, located away from the engine (fuel injection).

Ok, thats great. I'll check the car over and make sure all is good. He did mention that the front panels need a bit of work, but thats about it for external work. The rest of the car sounds pristine, but i'll check this out myself.

Just wondering, but is their any hidden places i should check for major damage/corrosion? I know theirs the spare wheel well.