valve springs and collets! ?? help please

just bought a compertition mk2 golf 1800 (non GTi) head comes with brande new valves but no valve springs or collets, could i use the 1800 GTi springs and collets? or do i have to use the 1800 carbd valves and collets, im going to be using the GTi cam in it.

simon

thanks in advance

anyone? also what about the lifters?

Lifters should be standard , valve springs are a bit more tricky as the head may have been machined for dual valve springs , are the valves larger than standard? .

i didnt relise with the head and valves that i was getting:
collets
springs (both inner and outer)
also a plate (valve spring plate??)
please correct me if im wrong but the smaller spring goes inside the larger spring, then the plate goes over the top of the two springs (what way round??) and they are held in by the collets. then what goes ontop of these to make it come in contact with the cam?
sorry if i am being just plane dumb  but this is all abit new to me stripping the head n blocks right the way down,
the valves i belive are standerd size they are all brand new and have had the seats recut?? and lapd in.

help would be much appreciated, and also does anyone no a price on the ??lifters??  if this is the things that make the valves come in contact with the cam.

simon

Ok to start with you have:

A lower spring disk: available from vw. (this is a lighter peice than the upper disk - so you'll know the difference)

then your two springs sit on top of this (doesn't matter which way round both have flattened edges)

then your valve goes up the middle

then you have the upper spring disk

the spring compressor is placed on this

the springs are compressed

the collets (two halfs) are place round the top of the valve stem

the compressor is realeased and the collets grip the stem and the upper disk.

Then the tappet/bucket goes on top of the completed valve/spring combo

id check with vw as to the difference in springs between the engines - they will be able to tell with the part numbers etc.

(by the way i would replace the valve stem oil seals if you have the head stripped)

tappets are about 5-6 quid each from euro car parts

I'd get some sort of manual or something that shows you how things are assembled if you've not done this sort of work before.

sorry to jump in on this thread, but i have a 1989 mk1 cabby, which has been fitted, with a 1983 head for sum reason,

the 1983 head has buckets and shims which ive been told you cant get any more??? :dontknow:   counly i fit the hydrolic tappetts from a latter engine, if i fitted a cam that matched??

any help would be appreciated, as its getting quite loud and very anoying, sorry agin for jumping in on your thread

Shims are still available but getting harder to find.  if you go for hydraulic then you'll need the later oil pump also if you havn't already got it.

where would i find the oil pump??? and whats the differences between the two? and ill go have a look, as i say its a 1989 block with a pre 83 head. sorry to sound thick

its in the sump -

took the head work today and got my mate who knows what he's doing to give me a hand, (im an apprentice mechanic) got it all cleaned up and fittd new valve stem seals, its all together now, all i need now are the hydraulic lifters got a price 4pound sumin each plus the vat so i was told im looking at 45quid ish inc vat.
also i got an oil cooler today too!

next on the list is to do the piston rings then it can all go together

thanks for all your help, much appreciated.