The quest for capacity-Audi 2.0 8V conversion how's it done?
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Old Timer

The quest for capacity-Audi 2.0 8V conversion how's it done?
Would a Audi 2.0L 8V engine/ bottom end be compatible with my current head and k-jet setup?
I've heard of this has been done in the past but is it as straight forward as it seems (drop the cars original head on top)?
What would I need to do for the conversion? Has anybody here done it? :dontknow:
I'm suspecting the block is taller and therefore an adapter for the exhaust is required but I'm unsure of the rest of the work required ie mounts and fuelling.
My plan is to buy an Audi 2.0 engine…..
(What?s the best engine and of what car Audi 80/coupe?)
…….send it to Lancaster engines and have some work boring; lightening; balancing work done. Then bolt this onto my ported and polished head (when I get it) with Kent gs2 cam.
This is my plan, which allows me to drive the car around whilst saving up, and modify the new 2.0 engine. I can then strip her down for the respray drop the new 2.0 8v in with new gearbox (sitting in storage).
Bobs your uncle 2.0 8v MK1
What do you think?
Any advice welcome
I've heard of this has been done in the past but is it as straight forward as it seems (drop the cars original head on top)?

What would I need to do for the conversion? Has anybody here done it? :dontknow:
I'm suspecting the block is taller and therefore an adapter for the exhaust is required but I'm unsure of the rest of the work required ie mounts and fuelling.
My plan is to buy an Audi 2.0 engine…..
(What?s the best engine and of what car Audi 80/coupe?)
…….send it to Lancaster engines and have some work boring; lightening; balancing work done. Then bolt this onto my ported and polished head (when I get it) with Kent gs2 cam.
This is my plan, which allows me to drive the car around whilst saving up, and modify the new 2.0 engine. I can then strip her down for the respray drop the new 2.0 8v in with new gearbox (sitting in storage).
Bobs your uncle 2.0 8v MK1
What do you think?
Any advice welcome

I used to own a mk1 - well I've had 2 actually - YDU 720X & SMU 420Y. Currently I drive an 98 Scotia White Mitsubishi Evolution V RS…. fancy getting another mk1 someday

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It is a straightforward conversion, my friend is doing the same on a Mk1 Scirocco. Apparently TSR do a kit (dizzy adapter, oil cooler plate, etc) specifically for it so speak to them. Your head will go on but retain your bottom end pulleys as they are different to the longitudinal installation.
Cheers
Rajan
Cheers
Rajan
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Old Timer

Hi - you want a 3A code engine ('bubble block') from the Audi. These aren't taller than your std engine so no probs with manifolds / bonnet fouling, etc. TSR sell (at least they used to) distributor ring (adapter allowing you to use std Gti dissy) and blanking plate (covers holes in Audi block where oil cooler was) for ?20 each. You could make the blanking plate though if you're handy.
You need to use your Gti head and everyting else including sump (I think).
Haven't done the swap yet but have a 3A engine in the garage myself ! Took me ages to find one that hadn't done mega miles though ……..
Cheers,
Mark
You need to use your Gti head and everyting else including sump (I think).
Haven't done the swap yet but have a 3A engine in the garage myself ! Took me ages to find one that hadn't done mega miles though ……..
Cheers,
Mark
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Old Timer

Is this a 3A bubble block of a 94 Audi 80 SE?
Fancy selling me yours?
You cant really see the block but it might help.
Fancy selling me yours?
You cant really see the block but it might help.

I used to own a mk1 - well I've had 2 actually - YDU 720X & SMU 420Y. Currently I drive an 98 Scotia White Mitsubishi Evolution V RS…. fancy getting another mk1 someday

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Old Timer

m6m62 Are you planning to do the conversion yourself? Would you be interested in selling me your engine. :wink:
Please can you tell me what to look for when buying a 3a bubble block ie engine codes or visable features?:dontknow:
What cars are thet fitted to? :dontknow:
Many thanks Karl
Please can you tell me what to look for when buying a 3a bubble block ie engine codes or visable features?:dontknow:
What cars are thet fitted to? :dontknow:
Many thanks Karl

I used to own a mk1 - well I've had 2 actually - YDU 720X & SMU 420Y. Currently I drive an 98 Scotia White Mitsubishi Evolution V RS…. fancy getting another mk1 someday

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Old Timer

Hi Karl,
I was going to put it in my Campaign, but think I'll be using it in my Caddy now. I will be doing the swap myself. The car mine came out of was older than a 1994 but as it was about 18mths ago I can't quite remember what year it was. Best you can do is look for the engine number on the donor car and see if it starts with 3A. Should have the number on the VIN plate on the slam panel (I think).
I'll try and remember to get in the garage and take some pics of it for you if you're still struggling
Cheers,
Mark
I was going to put it in my Campaign, but think I'll be using it in my Caddy now. I will be doing the swap myself. The car mine came out of was older than a 1994 but as it was about 18mths ago I can't quite remember what year it was. Best you can do is look for the engine number on the donor car and see if it starts with 3A. Should have the number on the VIN plate on the slam panel (I think).
I'll try and remember to get in the garage and take some pics of it for you if you're still struggling
Cheers,
Mark
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Sure you have probably already found it 8) but theres a 3A audi engine on flea bay as we speak.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/…9895&item=7971771692&rd=1
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/…9895&item=7971771692&rd=1
Mark
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Old Timer

I have thanks 89Rallye :wink:
Its too far away though and he states local pick up. :cry:
There is a guy breaking a 94 Audi 80 SE in Mersyside (pictured above) but I dont know if its a 3a. Just waiting for him to get back to me with an engine code.
Thanks for the research and if any more are spotted please keep me posted.
Cheers Karl.
Its too far away though and he states local pick up. :cry:
There is a guy breaking a 94 Audi 80 SE in Mersyside (pictured above) but I dont know if its a 3a. Just waiting for him to get back to me with an engine code.
Thanks for the research and if any more are spotted please keep me posted.
Cheers Karl.
I used to own a mk1 - well I've had 2 actually - YDU 720X & SMU 420Y. Currently I drive an 98 Scotia White Mitsubishi Evolution V RS…. fancy getting another mk1 someday

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There is a guy breaking a 94 Audi 80 SE in Mersyside (pictured above) but I dont know if its a 3a. Just waiting for him to get back to me with an engine code
Where did you see this on Ebay?? does the guy come under the name Lazybones or something??
I only ask cause I think thats my sisters fella breaking it, cause I know he has a J plate Audi 80 to break very soon.
Mark
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Old Timer

Yeah I did see it on Evilbay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4548283277&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
He is called Paul. Is it the same chap?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4548283277&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
He is called Paul. Is it the same chap?
I used to own a mk1 - well I've had 2 actually - YDU 720X & SMU 420Y. Currently I drive an 98 Scotia White Mitsubishi Evolution V RS…. fancy getting another mk1 someday

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No different one, this is him….
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/…4133&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
We have told him the cars too good to break.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/…4133&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
We have told him the cars too good to break.
Mark
My cars -
72 Moonraker - http://www.volkszone.c…i/showthread.php?t=304603
MYSPACE
My cars -
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http://dubforce.net/pi…files/webfiles/Rallye.htm72 Moonraker - http://www.volkszone.c…i/showthread.php?t=304603
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Old Timer

Can you ask hem about the engine for me please? (Providing its the one I need a 3a bubble)
I used to own a mk1 - well I've had 2 actually - YDU 720X & SMU 420Y. Currently I drive an 98 Scotia White Mitsubishi Evolution V RS…. fancy getting another mk1 someday

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Yeah I'll look into it for you. :mrgreen:
Mark
My cars -
72 Moonraker - http://www.volkszone.c…i/showthread.php?t=304603
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My cars -
ERROR: A link was posted here (url) but it appears to be a broken link.
http://dubforce.net/pi…files/webfiles/Rallye.htm72 Moonraker - http://www.volkszone.c…i/showthread.php?t=304603
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Old Timer

Cheers mate appreciated :wink:
I used to own a mk1 - well I've had 2 actually - YDU 720X & SMU 420Y. Currently I drive an 98 Scotia White Mitsubishi Evolution V RS…. fancy getting another mk1 someday

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Old Timer

Ok I have some pics can any one identify if this is a 3A block




I used to own a mk1 - well I've had 2 actually - YDU 720X & SMU 420Y. Currently I drive an 98 Scotia White Mitsubishi Evolution V RS…. fancy getting another mk1 someday

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Old Timer

The engine number in the second pic has a K in it, so it's one of the tall blocks (about 10mm taller than the 3A engine, which is the same height as the DX block)
From memory, the two tall Audi 8v blocks are AAD & ABK (not sure on the second one, but I have an AAD ready to fit into a GTI later this year, so I'm sure of that one)
I think that all of the type 8C Audi 80's ('92 - '95, Grille is part of bonnet, 15" rims) have tall blocks, and the type 89 ones ('88 - '91, grille is part of front panel, 14" rims) have the short block that you would prefer.
By the way, the tall blocks are ok to use, it's just that you'll need the Tim Stiles kit to account for the extra 10mm and the different distributor size.
PS: there are also 2.0 16v Audi engines (tall block) - 6A and ACE are these codes - I have an ACE in my daily driver Audi 80 Avant.
From memory, the two tall Audi 8v blocks are AAD & ABK (not sure on the second one, but I have an AAD ready to fit into a GTI later this year, so I'm sure of that one)
I think that all of the type 8C Audi 80's ('92 - '95, Grille is part of bonnet, 15" rims) have tall blocks, and the type 89 ones ('88 - '91, grille is part of front panel, 14" rims) have the short block that you would prefer.
By the way, the tall blocks are ok to use, it's just that you'll need the Tim Stiles kit to account for the extra 10mm and the different distributor size.
PS: there are also 2.0 16v Audi engines (tall block) - 6A and ACE are these codes - I have an ACE in my daily driver Audi 80 Avant.
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Local Hero

It must be one of thoses 'wheres wally' pictures because I can't see a K in the second pic
mind you… I don't look past my nose most of the time!

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Old Timer

Ok here is my detective work with photo editor
Looks like A,B,K,2, maybe 0 then 9 5? Not bad eh!
ABK I think :dontknow:
Thanks Type17 thats great info :wink:
Unfortunately my quest continues for the short block :cry:

Looks like A,B,K,2, maybe 0 then 9 5? Not bad eh!
ABK I think :dontknow:
Thanks Type17 thats great info :wink:
Unfortunately my quest continues for the short block :cry:
I used to own a mk1 - well I've had 2 actually - YDU 720X & SMU 420Y. Currently I drive an 98 Scotia White Mitsubishi Evolution V RS…. fancy getting another mk1 someday

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Local Hero


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Local Hero

engine
Yeah great work Kins....YOU GERBIL MURDERER! 8O
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