16v conversion
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16v conversion
right, ive just acquired a doner car mk2 golf 16v and am planning to plant the engine into my mk1.ive got a friend whos gonna rebuild the whole engine and ive got a 2L bottom end sourced out too.
but what else is needed and at what cost do you guys reckon??
but what else is needed and at what cost do you guys reckon??
Mk1 1983 Helios Blue GTI Engineering
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anyone?
Mk1 1983 Helios Blue GTI Engineering
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exhaust manifold for a start.
what spec is your MK1 to start with?
what spec is your MK1 to start with?
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Depending on what model mk1 you have, engine mountings may need to be modified, are you gonna be running k-jet,mp9 or an aftermarket EFI, sideshafts, cv's, driveshafts…
i'm busy doing the same conversion so i'd also like to know :dontknow:
i'm busy doing the same conversion so i'd also like to know :dontknow:
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msn/email me @ DavidGawen@hotmail.com i've got a zip file with a load of info on the conversion, not everything you need but a good starting point
Mk1 Golf 16V Conversion FAQ Zip, now located at in the Forum WIKI section: http://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/index.php?page=cedi&type=misc&id=42%2F26%2F3
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ive got a gti. i know i need a scirocco 16v downpipe or a 4 branch exhaust manifold.
ive also heard about changing the fuel lines and driveshafts but is there anything else???
ive also heard about changing the fuel lines and driveshafts but is there anything else???
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Do what Dave above did and use your GTi gearbox and shafts that you have in the car for now and you don't need to change your fuel lines, un less you want to……IE; flash braided lines etc…
Dave's is a nice conversion and the zip file he has is very help full with wiring in the ecu etc
Dave's is a nice conversion and the zip file he has is very help full with wiring in the ecu etc
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Am being a bit slow on it as i've been trying to update and add bits. I'll send tonight, sorry guys.
Mk1 Golf 16V Conversion FAQ Zip, now located at in the Forum WIKI section: http://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/index.php?page=cedi&type=misc&id=42%2F26%2F3
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Thanks for the info mate, I'll definitely put it to good use
To anybody who has done the conversion, am I right in thinking the mk2 Golf 16v driveshafts cannot be used for the conversion due to them being slightly too long?
I only ask cause I can get the mk2 Golf 16v front brake setup for ?50 including driveshafts and was just wondering whether I actually need them.
I've heard late cabby, rocco shafts are the way to go, can anyone confirm this?
Thanks 8)
To anybody who has done the conversion, am I right in thinking the mk2 Golf 16v driveshafts cannot be used for the conversion due to them being slightly too long?
I only ask cause I can get the mk2 Golf 16v front brake setup for ?50 including driveshafts and was just wondering whether I actually need them.
I've heard late cabby, rocco shafts are the way to go, can anyone confirm this?
Thanks 8)
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If you are going to be using the mk2 16v gearbox then the mk2 16v driveshafts are no use, as you correctly say you would require late rocco or cabby shafts which have the lasrger 100mm inner cvs, are the correct length and have the correct outer cv for the mk1 hubs.
An alternative to this would be to swap the drive flange on the mk2 16v gearbox to accept the smaller mk1 90mm inner cvs. This is pretty easy to do, the drive flanges are spring loaded and held in by circlips. This way you can use you existing mk1 driveshafts.
On a different not the mk2 16v brakes will not be suitable for the mk1. To go 256mm you will need to get the calipers and carriers of the early shape audi coupes/audi 80 sports. Theres a set on ebay if you are after this setup. I think it is possible to make the mk2 brakes fit but i have been told due to the hubs the car wll suffer from excessive bump steer. Someone else may be able to explain in greater detail.
An alternative to this would be to swap the drive flange on the mk2 16v gearbox to accept the smaller mk1 90mm inner cvs. This is pretty easy to do, the drive flanges are spring loaded and held in by circlips. This way you can use you existing mk1 driveshafts.
On a different not the mk2 16v brakes will not be suitable for the mk1. To go 256mm you will need to get the calipers and carriers of the early shape audi coupes/audi 80 sports. Theres a set on ebay if you are after this setup. I think it is possible to make the mk2 brakes fit but i have been told due to the hubs the car wll suffer from excessive bump steer. Someone else may be able to explain in greater detail.
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Definitely after the 256mm setup mate so I will look into the Audi carriers/calipers etc.
Thanks for the info, it all helps
Thanks for the info, it all helps
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cheers for the mail dave mate,
appreciate it,
paul
appreciate it,
paul
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yeh me too mate - really helpful
cheers
cheers
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No worries
hey Zak, hows yours going!
hey Zak, hows yours going!
Mk1 Golf 16V Conversion FAQ Zip, now located at in the Forum WIKI section: http://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/index.php?page=cedi&type=misc&id=42%2F26%2F3
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slow progrees for me ops: but ive done a few other things along the way. The engines in, i timed it up last night, should have most of the mechanicals bits fited by the end of the week, which leaves me to sort out the vacuum system, wiring, and re filling the brake system. Once its done i shoul hopefully catch you at a meet
Helios Blue
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nice one mate, good to hear its coming along
tbh because of my slipping clutch I may as well had a 1L engine in mine for the past month or so, havent had many chances to actually give it some beans yet!
tbh because of my slipping clutch I may as well had a 1L engine in mine for the past month or so, havent had many chances to actually give it some beans yet!
Mk1 Golf 16V Conversion FAQ Zip, now located at in the Forum WIKI section: http://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/index.php?page=cedi&type=misc&id=42%2F26%2F3
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Got 16v conversion flexi fuel lines in now - http://www.vwgolfmk1.org.uk/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=5875&highlight=
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Those Lines looking sweet Rich 8)
One to in the future eh! :roll:
One to in the future eh! :roll:
Mk1 Golf 16V Conversion FAQ Zip, now located at in the Forum WIKI section: http://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/index.php?page=cedi&type=misc&id=42%2F26%2F3
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