Fuel leak
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Old Timer

I noticed the smell of fuel from my car on a recent journey. As I pulled up a hill to park, I noticed a liquid spraying out of the bonnet. Yes it was Fuel!
I'm trying to work out what pipe to use.
It's mk2 16V k-jet fueling.
I'm trying to work out what pipe to use.
It's mk2 16V k-jet fueling.

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Local Hero


they are supposed to be braided and compression fittings and not cheap chynneese rubber pipe and clips stretched and pulled at an angle?

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Old Timer

Oh. I read that you could get braided ones. I didn't know that was standard.
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Local Hero


the_whip said
Oh. I read that you could get braided ones. I didn't know that was standard.
the_whip said
Oh. I read that you could get braided ones. I didn't know that was standard.
Looking further the one from filter to meterhead isn't but looks like this
https://www.heritagepartscentre.com/uk/067133679h-fuel-injection-feed-pipe-filter-to-metering-valve.html?gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADuXhqiISNGUuIw2PbQsl7nPeJxB8&gclid=Cj0KCQjwzrzABhD8ARIsANlSWNO6mAMwNBFxt5Cw-sO5fBgbYAWuyJDaodiH8XvTb5i6SCEsIEfnHBoaAjPtEALw_wcB
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Old Timer

Okay, thanks.
£100?
Perhaps I can find the same type of rubber tubing as mine will be a custom length.
£100?
Perhaps I can find the same type of rubber tubing as mine will be a custom length.
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Local Hero


you pays your money etc
looks like the meterhead to engine ones have been modified too, might be worth checking for cracking and splits on those
looks like the meterhead to engine ones have been modified too, might be worth checking for cracking and splits on those
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Old Timer

If you have the original ends and they're okay just take them to any hydraulic workshop and ask them to crimp on a bit of braided hose that's okay with todays petrol.
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Old Timer

"hydraulic workshop" - I wasn't aware that such a thing existed. I'll have to have a look - thanks.
The other pipes looked fine, but I'll double check.
The other pipes looked fine, but I'll double check.
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Old Timer

Looking at the ETKA, mine should be standard part 067 133 679.
I wonder if this would do the trick…
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/373461687871
It has the right amount of twist and is the right part number.
I wonder if this would do the trick…
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/373461687871
It has the right amount of twist and is the right part number.
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Old Timer

Any supplier of hydraulic equipment should have a workshop where they repair and make up hoses, there's one down here called 'Armada', they've done a couple for me.
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Old Timer

cedar said
Any supplier of hydraulic equipment should have a workshop where they repair and make up hoses, there's one down here called 'Armada', they've done a couple for me.
Was it expensive?
This is near me https://www.rotec.net/
I'm going to call them tomorrow.
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Old Timer

It was a while ago and I really can't remember but it was a fraction of the price of a new pipe.
The first one I had done was the braided hose at the rear of the Mk1 that goes from the pump to the accumulator, I think that's right. I was working then and someone there actually made me an end fitting because mine was rusty, I sold the car with that still on about 15yrs later.
The other one was a fuel pressure gauge they made up for me.
If you try it make sure you get the orientation of the end fittings right because there isn't much give in the hose.
The first one I had done was the braided hose at the rear of the Mk1 that goes from the pump to the accumulator, I think that's right. I was working then and someone there actually made me an end fitting because mine was rusty, I sold the car with that still on about 15yrs later.
The other one was a fuel pressure gauge they made up for me.
If you try it make sure you get the orientation of the end fittings right because there isn't much give in the hose.
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Old Timer

So it turns out there is a good reason this piece has such an odd shape:
I went to the hydraulic centre. They didn't have the ends in stock, but said they could make it up for me. I realised that I didn't really know what I wanted. How do I get a normal tube into that sort of shape?? They gave me some proper ethanol proof pipe, the compression clips, and taught me how to fit them myself. £6 in total.
I've tried getting the pipe to fit, but I'm not sure it's doable in a sensible way. I could do it the way it was done before:
Or I could try to loop it over the top like the original:
It's pretty tight in there without the metal elbow of the original. It's also difficult to create the 180 degree bend in the pipe. I don't think brading would help at all. I'll give it another go, but it seems it would be best to go with the original part rather normal/braded tubing.

I went to the hydraulic centre. They didn't have the ends in stock, but said they could make it up for me. I realised that I didn't really know what I wanted. How do I get a normal tube into that sort of shape?? They gave me some proper ethanol proof pipe, the compression clips, and taught me how to fit them myself. £6 in total.
I've tried getting the pipe to fit, but I'm not sure it's doable in a sensible way. I could do it the way it was done before:

Or I could try to loop it over the top like the original:

It's pretty tight in there without the metal elbow of the original. It's also difficult to create the 180 degree bend in the pipe. I don't think brading would help at all. I'll give it another go, but it seems it would be best to go with the original part rather normal/braded tubing.
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Old Timer


How resistant to bending is the hose? Could you make it longer and loop over like this to reduce the bend radius?
You'd need to fit the banjos without clamping and align them to prevent the hose twisting.

You'd need to fit the banjos without clamping and align them to prevent the hose twisting.
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Old Timer

That's just what I ended up doing.
I noticed that one of banjos has a slightly thinner diametre than the other. The pipe I have is thicker so the compression clamps don't work quite so well on that end. I managed to the run the engine, but there was a slight seeping from that end of the pipe
I ordered the proper part, and some new compression washers. It was worth trying though.
I noticed that one of banjos has a slightly thinner diametre than the other. The pipe I have is thicker so the compression clamps don't work quite so well on that end. I managed to the run the engine, but there was a slight seeping from that end of the pipe
I ordered the proper part, and some new compression washers. It was worth trying though.
Whip
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Noun - Car
When the steering wheel was first put into use in automobiles, it was called the whip. The term has now been generalised to classify any automobile.
/wip/
Noun - Car
When the steering wheel was first put into use in automobiles, it was called the whip. The term has now been generalised to classify any automobile.
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