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Mk 1 gti dx 8v cabriolet clutch cable snapped and needs replacement

My clutch cable has been sawing through my bulk head or whatever it seems, I've taken a rubbish picture of it all frayed etc… anyway 
My question is can I fit an automatic adjusting clutch cable like the one pictured as an example or do I need a manual adjusting one? 
The nearest I can get one from is euro car parts and I've ordered both for Monday, which should I get is it a direct swap… they don't do ones for mk1 anymore just mk2 apparently? IMG_3297.JPG IMG_3298.PNG IMG_3300.PNG

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Yes, you can use those, but the manual in my humble opinion is better.  

I would also inspect it for the feed through didn't break as is want to do on those as well.

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Does the carrier tube fit here as I've circled it in the picture? It's sawn it's way through if it does! Haha IMG_3308.PNG

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I do believe so, as it is actually part of the pedal assembly…..

That is why I included the links….
I have never had that issue in the 20 years that I owned my Golf/Diesel, or the 3 years I owned my 90 Cabriolet.

But I did change the cables a few times….

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Your bulkhead looks rather messy, I guess it started to crack/split and it's been repaired in the past, if you dont have a repair plate fitted the engine side of the bulk head I would fit one as well as it spreads out the load put on the bulk head when you press the clutch pedal.

repair plate look like this and you can just stick it on.
https://www.vwheritage.com/171898152-bulkhead-repair-patch-for-clutch-cable-mk1-golf-jetta-sciro/

I would go for the manual adjustment cable as it's not hard to adjust the cable and once set you should not need to ever adjust it, you may need to adjust it once the cable has settled in after a month or so.
I'm not sure the Mk3 golf one will fit as it seems to be missing the rubber bung which the cable pulls on?

When you get the new cable check it's the right size etc then pour some 3 in 1 oil down the cable so it runs inside till it starts to come out the other end, leave it for an hour hanging up (put something down to catch the oil) This should lube up the cable and make it nice and free. Smear some grease on the rubber bung which its into the bulk head and fit up the cable, if you are having trouble pushing the rubber bung into the hole in the bulk head/repair plate just get in the car and press the clutch pedal and that will pull the bung home.

In you pictures you rubber bung looks as if it's on the wrong angle? I don't think it will make much difference but just check the cable is coming out straight so you don't have the same problem a year down the line. If you look at the plate you can see the flat part of the bung should be at the top.

You can see on my bulk head the split and missing metal, I've not fixed it and have a plate fitting and it's been fine for the last 3 years, One day I'll get it fixed.


1988 Mk1 Golf GTi Cabriolet 1.8cc DX, K-jet. Daily drive. 317,000 miles and counting
1978 Mk1 Scirocco GLS 1.6cc FR, Webber carb. Weekend toy.

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Just looked at the link to the cable from Euro car parts and I'm not sure it will fit as there is no kink in the metal part coming out from the bulk head, that kink is needed so the cable misses the inlet manifold.

The cable should look like this and according to VW heritage needs to be 1470mm long.

https://www.vwheritage.com/172721335h-clutch-cable-1470mm-for-mk1-golf-scirocco-jetta-for-rhd-k-j

I think VW part number is 172721335H

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-GOLF-MK1-CABRIOLET-1-6-GTI-1-8-GTI-CLUTCH-CABLE-172721335H-RHD-C511-/191908322182



1988 Mk1 Golf GTi Cabriolet 1.8cc DX, K-jet. Daily drive. 317,000 miles and counting
1978 Mk1 Scirocco GLS 1.6cc FR, Webber carb. Weekend toy.

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Those replies are amazing thank you so much, I'll try fitting the one from Euro since it's coming tomorrow and was really cheap! The guy in the phone was a fan of golf gti mk1 and gave us trade !! Hah win! I get so many parts from there lol 
You've all been very helpful thank you so much for taking the time to reply, I'll post an update when I sort it! Or if I get stuck lol

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Okay, fitted my clutch pedal… the clutch pedal doesn't return to its position at all, it feels so loose and free? If I tighten the stump up it just pulls the leaver up and if loosen the stump part the leaver drops? It's like the pedal doesn't spring back when I press it nor can I select a gear pictures under  IMG_3316.JPG IMG_3317.JPG IMG_3318.JPG

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I think the problem is it's the wrong cable, it's routed wrong and it seems to be on an angle when inside the car and going to the pedal.

You could try and screw the adjuster a bit more as the arm on the gearbox is normal for it to easy to move by hand the first bit till it stops then it starts to operate the clutch and you will not be able to move by by hand.

Grab hold of the cable at the adjuster pull it up and screw down the adjuster so it's touching the rubber bush/ gearbox. Go in to the car and see how much free play you have in the pedal if any, you should adjust the cable ( screw up or down the adjuster) till you have about 10mm of free play till you feel any thing.

Press the clutch pedal and you should start to feel the clutch working, you may have a heavy clutch pedal with that cable fitted?
I think you will very shortly saw through that clutch cable so it will be worth ordering the right cable so the angles are right.

You can see how much I have to screw out the adjuster on my car.

1988 Mk1 Golf GTi Cabriolet 1.8cc DX, K-jet. Daily drive. 317,000 miles and counting
1978 Mk1 Scirocco GLS 1.6cc FR, Webber carb. Weekend toy.

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It wouldn't screw out so I did this, I put a bottle cap on it stuffed full of washers, it's all I could manage because I desperately need to get to work lol 
Anyway I'll put a pic of it on here for you to laugh at 😂 
It does work though my quest is now.. how is it routed as you say.. in what way is the clutch cable supposed to lay? I've got the same kink in the end cable as I'm supposed to? It's just short I think  IMG_3320.JPG

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I guess the bottle top will work to space out the cable, I guess you are having problems because you have a cable from a Mk2 Golf?
You also seem to also be missing a rubber guide at the gearbox end.

looks like this. its upside down in this link.
http://www.classic-vw.co.uk/clutch-cable-rubber-guide-171721308-4173-p.asp

This spaces out the adjuster a little, you can buy it with a washer but the washer is not really needed.
http://www.classic-vw.co.uk/clutch-cable-rubber-guide--washer-171721307--171721308-4171-p.asp

clutch cable.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-GOLF-MK1-CABRIOLET-1-6-GTI-1-8-GTI-CLUTCH-CABLE-172721335H-RHD-C511-/191908322182?fits=Model%3AGolf&hash=item2caea09b86:g:uVAAAOSwEjFXcj04

pictures of how its routed.



clutch cable in middle of picture.






You can see the rubber guide and washer fitted here.


I also have a plastic clip which fits to the clutch master cylinder which hold the clutch cable straight.



1988 Mk1 Golf GTi Cabriolet 1.8cc DX, K-jet. Daily drive. 317,000 miles and counting
1978 Mk1 Scirocco GLS 1.6cc FR, Webber carb. Weekend toy.

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Wow!!! You are very concise I've appreciated all you've done for me and my car in all of the posts ! All I've managed to do is this IMG_3344.JPG IMG_3345.JPG IMG_3346.JPG IMG_3347.JPG
It's pretty short! 
Remember I said I changed me piston rings about two months ago? Well my plugs look like this now  IMG_3337.JPG
I'm hoping that it's not a big deal? I read in the Haynes at the back it can happen (temporarily during running in? 
My co is also lean so they could be overheating? 0.20%

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No worries with the help, you seem to getting alsorts of problems at the moment, it will be worth it once they are sorted.

You also seem to missing a plastic rain tray above the heater blower, it stops the rain getting into the heater and in to your car.

http://www.classic-vw.co.uk/scuttle-rain-tray-171819415f-genuine-mk1-golf-jetta-caddy-15085-p.asp

You also need 3 clips to hold it on, on 1 side and the rubber seal running along the bulk head holds it on the other side.
http://www.classic-vw.co.uk/scuttle-rain-tray-securing-clip-3-pack-191819145a-14772-p.asp

They seem to be making one in white as well.
http://www.classic-vw.co.uk/scuttle-rain-tray-white-171819415fw-mk1-golf-jetta-caddy-14764-p.asp

The scuttle tray is finally available at a sensible price as I ever seen people selling them for £100+ and people queuing up for them!

Plastic cover missing on the wiper arm nut.
http://www.classic-vw.co.uk/mk1-golf-wiper-nut-cover-133955435-3741-p.asp

It also worth changing your black expansion tank cap for a blue one, the black ones have a tendency to go wrong.

http://www.classic-vw.co.uk/radiator--expansion-bottle-cap-x28bluex29-171121321c-4743-p.asp

I bet you wish you did not post up a picture for all the things I spotted.  :lol:

It will save on postage if you order all the stuff together.

Just to add classic vw is nothing to do with me but it's a handy shop with lots of little bits which are hard to find. I do recommend them.

Pop the spark plugs back in as now you have increased the mixture and got the timing set it should help, I would change them for new in 10,000 miles.



1988 Mk1 Golf GTi Cabriolet 1.8cc DX, K-jet. Daily drive. 317,000 miles and counting
1978 Mk1 Scirocco GLS 1.6cc FR, Webber carb. Weekend toy.

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IMG_3339.JPG I'm praying that my timing is right ! Here are some pics below I took today.. IMG_3341.PNG IMG_3342.PNG
This plug looks oily to me?  IMG_3337.JPG
Does it to you? Am I paranoid lol 
Do you think my timing mark for the camshaft is in the exact right spot ? It's inline with the head itself it's supposed to be right? 
I think that's where I have it..
And yeah I'll get those things ordered soon as possible it all needs doing and yep it will be worth it I'm sure, i absolutely love my car it's part of me and I hate it too lol 

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Cam shaft timing mark is set without the rocker/cam cover fitted.
Do you have a metal cover for the timing belt?



Oily deposits on spark plugs look fine to me, short journeys, not getting the car hot enough can affect what the plugs look like.

1988 Mk1 Golf GTi Cabriolet 1.8cc DX, K-jet. Daily drive. 317,000 miles and counting
1978 Mk1 Scirocco GLS 1.6cc FR, Webber carb. Weekend toy.

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Oh so many words of wisdom from Mark mark1gls  in this post! :thumbs:

May I suggest that you stick to the issue that you started with in this case the clutch cable.
If you have other issues as you seem to do, start a new post for each otherwise it can get darn confusing for anyone reading the lastest entry for the first time which might be a spark plug!

Lastly I'm trying to teach my 19 old son and a car freak an old saying that my dad to taught me a very long time ago that he learnt from an old 'Tailor ' who made suits by hand.

"Measure twice, cut once"

Never forgotten that as it must have saved me a fortune for one and billions of brain cells!  :lol:
Good luck.  :thumbs:

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Noted, sorry…  I can see how that could confuse others.. for anybody looking for clutch cable answers, look above ^^^  I am fairly new to the site and didn't think of that! 
I come here looking for answers myself by looking up and down other people's threads.. I can fix so many problems due to seeing others when they are solely on the started subject. 
My bad man honestly 

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HarrySzabo said

Noted, sorry…  I can see how that could confuse others.. for anybody looking for clutch cable answers, look above ^^^  I am fairly new to the site and didn't think of that! 
I come here looking for answers myself by looking up and down other people's threads.. I can fix so many problems due to seeing others when they are solely on the started subject. 
My bad man honestly 

No worries mate as we all do it at the start.  ;)

As you can see it can quickly get out of control and turn into one almighty 'Cluster F', rhymes with duck!  :lol:


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