rusted inner wing and rear arches!! (pics!!)
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rusted inner wing and rear arches!! (pics!!)
Alright people…
is it worth the hassle sorting out the inner wings or should i look for another car…
the cars been off road for sum time now, problem after problem..i did have a fixed for a short period and was enjoyin bombin about town in it (2 weeks) then the sump smashed off and the manifold snapped…
the tax then ran out so its currently sorned.
Today i decided to take all the trim bits off. The rear gti plastic arches didnt need much pulled them off by hand..takin half of the metal/rust with them, next was the wings, drivers side is fine but the passenger inner wing looks like a siv! these are not small eithor with the biggest 1 being the size ov a fist!! 8O
should i look for another and break this 1? :dontknow:
is it worth the hassle sorting out the inner wings or should i look for another car…
the cars been off road for sum time now, problem after problem..i did have a fixed for a short period and was enjoyin bombin about town in it (2 weeks) then the sump smashed off and the manifold snapped…
the tax then ran out so its currently sorned.
Today i decided to take all the trim bits off. The rear gti plastic arches didnt need much pulled them off by hand..takin half of the metal/rust with them, next was the wings, drivers side is fine but the passenger inner wing looks like a siv! these are not small eithor with the biggest 1 being the size ov a fist!! 8O
should i look for another and break this 1? :dontknow:
1272 driver with a magic tree!!
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FIX IT :wink:
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Old Timer
Plus all the dog turd in the drivers side footwell
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Dont break it, thats another less on the road - or off it in your case!!, all part of the fun of owning one, if theres nothing to do on them, its boring :wink:
FIX IT!! :mrgreen:
Greg 8)
FIX IT!! :mrgreen:
Greg 8)
1981 Golf C 1.1
1982 Golf GTI
1992 Corrado G60
1999 Golf GT TDI
1982 Golf GTI
1992 Corrado G60
1999 Golf GT TDI
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alreet dj, not so bad mate been gutted not turning up to the meets…at least my trainees have been dog turd free for the past few months
bought any new grills lately?
i knew people would tell me to fix it! blast you.. :twisted:
i'll get some pics up later of the rust!
bought any new grills lately?
i knew people would tell me to fix it! blast you.. :twisted:
i'll get some pics up later of the rust!
1272 driver with a magic tree!!
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Local Hero
i went to look at a X reg golf diesel last month and the front flitches and wings were rotton as a pear,the reason was no plastic wheel arch liners to stop all the crap going into the nether regions,the Y reg and newer had these guards and lasted longer,my 94 citigolf did not have them so i fitted them
Bert
Bert
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Local Hero
inner wings and arches ain't a problem fix it!
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X2 1983 A REG EW CAMPAIGN In WHITE(Awaiting full rebuild solid body) & T Reg S1 GTi Project, Still Looking for Series 1 GTi's or a 16S Oettinger to restore (Complete Cars only) or an A reg Lhasa Green or White Gti to restore, also consider Black, Red or Blue, Also Golf Driver Project Wanted anything considered WHY
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Local Hero
My advice would be to look closely at the rest of the underside. For example, rear arches, chassis legs, sills, etc. If these are okay and its just the inner wings, then its worthwhile repairing them. If there is more corrosion, then you could spend a LONG time repairing it. And it would probably work out more cost effective to buy another car.
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Old Timer
don't be a big girly picnic sheet, just fix it -
" oh no, theres some rust on my 25 year old car "
lets panic and scrap it - the current classic hot hatch scene as we know it…
good lord man, sit back, look at it, price up the panels and sort it.
and then love every minute of it when you've done it.
" oh no, theres some rust on my 25 year old car "
lets panic and scrap it - the current classic hot hatch scene as we know it…
good lord man, sit back, look at it, price up the panels and sort it.
and then love every minute of it when you've done it.
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lowmk1 AND DjEv on 1 thread together!!!
low, get a cheap piece of paper, plaster some of your favourite brown stuff on it and stick it to the inner wing over the holes. The MOT fella will smell the odour and keep away and certainly wont be tapping it!!!!
Get it fixed and get back on the road with us!!
Dan
low, get a cheap piece of paper, plaster some of your favourite brown stuff on it and stick it to the inner wing over the holes. The MOT fella will smell the odour and keep away and certainly wont be tapping it!!!!
Get it fixed and get back on the road with us!!
Dan
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well here are the pics! what do you lot think!? i know people have seen worse but for sum1 with no welder no welding skills and not much money.. :dontknow:
hey dano thats not a bad idea!!
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Local Hero
OMG! There's a lot of filler in that inner wing! 8O My old MK1 I had when I was 19 was held together with fibre glass!
It's doable but at end of day will need you to get a MIG and learn to weld or pay someone else to do. Really down to how much cash you can spare at end of day?
Otherwise, look at re-shell if mechanically sound. Do search in For Sale for user 'midweekbeatle' - he's got a VERY solid shell still for sale and could be more cost effective for you?
Cheers
Andy
It's doable but at end of day will need you to get a MIG and learn to weld or pay someone else to do. Really down to how much cash you can spare at end of day?
Otherwise, look at re-shell if mechanically sound. Do search in For Sale for user 'midweekbeatle' - he's got a VERY solid shell still for sale and could be more cost effective for you?
Cheers
Andy
Andy
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1962 Rover P4 80
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Local Hero
If its just those areas which are rusty, then repair it. However I suspect there is more. Look at:
the entire length of the sills
ends of the sills
lift the carpet and felt inside and look at the inner sill/floor join area
right rear seat belt reel mounting point
remove right rear wheel and look up, at the filler neck area
base of the A pillar and scuttle area
These could also be just as rusty. If so, then you're looking at a long time off the road, lots of parts having to come off the car and be stored somewhere, then lots of welding. In short, a restoration.
the entire length of the sills
ends of the sills
lift the carpet and felt inside and look at the inner sill/floor join area
right rear seat belt reel mounting point
remove right rear wheel and look up, at the filler neck area
base of the A pillar and scuttle area
These could also be just as rusty. If so, then you're looking at a long time off the road, lots of parts having to come off the car and be stored somewhere, then lots of welding. In short, a restoration.
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Old Timer
Just found some rust on the inside of the boot round the filler neck area. Looks like I'm gonna run mine till the summer then takin it off the road for all repairs. Get it fixed Low, you know it makes sense :roll:
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Just had a full outer body restore
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Old Timer
Hey up Low! Hey up EV!
Low dont be a wuss get it fixed. I think you ol' pal Kins might have to come round with the angle grinder to help! If I were you I'd get sourcing some new inner wings mate. Get your sen a magnet and check the sills and arches if they've been fillered too. :wink:
Low dont be a wuss get it fixed. I think you ol' pal Kins might have to come round with the angle grinder to help! If I were you I'd get sourcing some new inner wings mate. Get your sen a magnet and check the sills and arches if they've been fillered too. :wink:
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Local Hero
Definitely fixable IMO.
I attempted something similar (the rust in your front wings is slightly worse though - but it's nothing a bit of welding can't fix) and my project is coming along ok.
Welding itself is not too hard to pick up (I've been doing it for less than a month) and is a good skill to have in general. Get stuck in - you'll be surprised how much better things seem when you know you can cut the rust out and replace it with decent metal in a short space of time.
HTH
Rich
I attempted something similar (the rust in your front wings is slightly worse though - but it's nothing a bit of welding can't fix) and my project is coming along ok.
Welding itself is not too hard to pick up (I've been doing it for less than a month) and is a good skill to have in general. Get stuck in - you'll be surprised how much better things seem when you know you can cut the rust out and replace it with decent metal in a short space of time.
HTH
Rich
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Old Timer
im about to fix worse on my five door mate. Don't be scared. Its easy once you get going.
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Old Timer
looks like underseal to me :dontknow:Hairyarse said
OMG! There's a lot of filler in that inner wing! 8O
Cheers
Andy
If you can stretch to a welder then get one and get practicing If not find a local guy who has a welder and won't charge alot once you've cleanup and cut out all the rot
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Local Hero
lowmk1 - thats a bit of a hole in the front wing, albeit repariable. How come you'd never noticed it from the engine bay side? As paul said, you should check the rest of the car as there is bound to be rust elsewhere judging by the inner wing.
Thats the factory applied stone chip paint, quite thick and rubbery. Seems quite durable stuff until water gets behind it and then gets trapped and allows rust to take hold out of sight. Next thing you know it's peeling off exposing a lack of metal 8O .
looks like underseal to me
Thats the factory applied stone chip paint, quite thick and rubbery. Seems quite durable stuff until water gets behind it and then gets trapped and allows rust to take hold out of sight. Next thing you know it's peeling off exposing a lack of metal 8O .
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To be honest mate i never noticed it!..the battery was hiding most of it!..
i've had another look round the car and i cant seem to find anymore…The rear tow hook is looking abit rusty and the sills seem ok!? 1 sides abit bent as sum1 has not used the correct jacking point!! i think the drivers rear arch has been repaired as its mint!
kins any help MUCHOS aprieciated!!!
i'll get some more pics up tonight
i've had another look round the car and i cant seem to find anymore…The rear tow hook is looking abit rusty and the sills seem ok!? 1 sides abit bent as sum1 has not used the correct jacking point!! i think the drivers rear arch has been repaired as its mint!
kins any help MUCHOS aprieciated!!!
i'll get some more pics up tonight
1272 driver with a magic tree!!
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