Cabby leccy windows

It seems that mk1 window switches are a bit cruddy. My windows are currently stuck down cf_emoticons__BangHead:.

So wondered whether to fit some aftermarket ones like http://www.cbsonline.co.uk/product/Electric_Window_Switch_SWWIN

Anybody tried these. I like the OE route, but not if they're unreliable. For a fiver each, may be worth a punt 

think i might try them

debo said

think i might try them

For a tenner for both gotta be worth a go!

By the way. I now need to get the windows back up.

Looking at the wiring colours, red is +12v and green is 'UP', can I use a length of wire to join these two together just to raise the window without frying anything.

Sure that I can, as I will only be doing what the switch would otherwise be doing…

follow the wires, the 2 which go insuide the doors are the ones to look at. or take the door cards off and jump them with 12v direct at motor

Sorted. They're now 'up' and I'll have a fiddle when the universal switches arrive. Feels like worn/bad connections within switch as it's sloppy rather than clicky.

There actually very similar to the ones I have at the minute, although mine are made by ergi or something
There good switches though had no problem with them at all

gnfnr88 said

There actually very similar to the ones I have at the minute, although mine are made by ergi or something
There good switches though had no problem with them at all

That's good news. Just need a little time to wire them in. The only slightly confusing thing is that the new switches have two earths  

Yeah they should one for the switches and one for the illumination.
I just have one earth,from the earth connector near the fuse box then piggy back/ loop all the earth's together as one.
then just a live illumination feed for the light

Make sure you have relays fitted as a constant live will just burn the switches out. Mine was this set up- I've gone for new relays, new wiring and new switches from a corrado.

Righto, electrical gurus…

Finally got around to looking at these new switches to try and fit them. They are rated at 20A so should be up to the job.

I have the one-touch windows but want to install some more reliable switches, so that leaves me with trying to sort out the wiring.

Original switches are:
Blue/black - window down
Green/white - window up
Grey/red - +ve
Black - -ve illumination
Brown - +ve illumination

Aftermarket switches are:
Black - earth (switch earth?)
Yellow - earth (illumination earth?)
Red - positive
Blue - window down
Green - window up
Brown - illumination

Now it might sound obvious, but can anyone advise on the correct wiring for the two earths (can they be combined?), and as the switches arent one touch will this confuse the veedub control unit?
Currently the existing switches will wind the windows down, but not back up without a lot of fiddling, like a worn/bad connection within the switch.

Basically am I better off wiring these new switches in (they are ON-OFF-ON, so work as per OE), or should I be looking for a B3 Passat at the scrappers to scavenge the switches, presumig that they are no longer available from TPS/VW.

Cheers all.

for the 1 touch switches, pin 1 and 4 are the illumination so thats sorted.

2 and 5 are up/down, with 3 being the common pin for both back to the window ecu.

normally aftermarket switches deal with a live input on 2 poles and switch this output to the motor.

now assuming the switch common wire is just a ground, I think you need to wire it like so:

1 - window unit up/down (trial and error)
2 - window unit up/down (trial and error)
3 + 5 unused
4 - earth
5 - ign live (or lights on feed if you prefer)

if the common wire is an ignition live feed:
1 - window unit up/down (trial and error)
2 - window unit up/down (trial and error)
3 + 5 unused
4 - ign live (or lights on feed if you prefer)
5 - earth

only potential issue with the common ign live layout is if the bulb is an led, it wont work unless you de-solder it and flip it round. But I'm pretty sure its a switched earth

on 2nd thought, ignore that. looking again the common wire is switched to live or earth depending if button is pressed up or down i think…?

I'd need to have a play and check the switch feeds to double check

looking at it if the aftermarket switches are liek mk2 golf they wont work, as the 1 touch system needs momentary contact for open/close to different pins. on the mk2 type both contacts have ignition live going thru them when the switch is at rest, then they switch between live and earth when you press the button

Well, I tried. Had a go recently but one of the new switches started smoking…So I am considering fitting manual windows over the winter and put some VDO gauges in their place. Am I right in thinking that manual windows just need the regulator and winder?

Unless someone can convince me that getting some new switches will be worthwhile. Do TPS still do the original switches or do I need to visit a scrappy?

just check out ebay, theres usually a few on there:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-CORRADO-16V-G60-VR6-EARLY-SPEC-DRIVERS-SIDE-TWIN-ELECTRIC-WINDOW-SWITCH-/181149996155

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Corrado-Electric-Window-Switch-357-959-855-A-/370834038571

Early last year I picked up an after market 'Electric-Life' sunroof conversion for my MKII… Did a bit of background at the time and found out the company still exist.

The link below was one of the sites I found, though there are others in various countries if you Google.

Bookmarked it for future use - Haven't had a need to contact them so far so can't say anything further.

Lots of VW OEM switches / panels.

http://www.electriclife.pl/index.php?action=przyciski

that is probably the same functionality wise as a normal mk2 switch though unfortunately, just shaped so it will fit the mk1 switch panel

Apparently I've got audi switches in mine as it's an aftermarket install job. Passenger side window switch is proper temperamental now which is annoying as that one statistically gets used less. Audi 80 by all accounts. So I will at some point have to open it up and clean it or if some tiny bit inside it has snapped replace it.

May have a scout around my local scrappy over the weekend...