VW MK1 GOLF UPRATED HEADLIGHT WIRING LOOM
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Local Hero
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Old Timer
There's a loom wiring diag on www.matey-matey.com which I'm trying to make sense of…….
Owning a Mk1 cabby is a vertical learning curve…
1989 Mk1 Clipper 1.8 automatic - Sadly now up for sale - medical issues dictate)
1999 (Nov) Passat S Saloon 1.9 TDI (AFN) - TUG 1 (Remap by CCC ( - **** …..change pants !!) with cruise control
2000 (Mar) Passat Sport Estate 1.9 TDI (ATJ) 5 speed automatic with Tiptronic - TUG 2 (Remap and cruise control by CCC)
1989 Mk1 Clipper 1.8 automatic - Sadly now up for sale - medical issues dictate)
1999 (Nov) Passat S Saloon 1.9 TDI (AFN) - TUG 1 (Remap by CCC ( - **** …..change pants !!) with cruise control
2000 (Mar) Passat Sport Estate 1.9 TDI (ATJ) 5 speed automatic with Tiptronic - TUG 2 (Remap and cruise control by CCC)
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Have a look at this site aswell might help
Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply
Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply
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Re: VW MK1 GOLF UPRATED HEADLIGHT WIRING LOOM
the best headlight wiring loom i have seen was made by brm i don't know whether they still do them but they are brillant. i found one on ebay last year and paid a bargin price of ?12.00. if you cant find one i could do you a diagram of how it works
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Local Hero
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I'd second the BRM loom recommendation as my Campaign has one fitted with uprated H4 headlights. Makes a BIG difference to the normal "candle power" I've seen on stock Mk1's :wink:
When I finally get round to an engine swap I think I will tidy up the engine bay wiring loom a bit as I'm sure its got some "extra" bits left in there from the alarm removal :roll:
Chris
When I finally get round to an engine swap I think I will tidy up the engine bay wiring loom a bit as I'm sure its got some "extra" bits left in there from the alarm removal :roll:
Chris
ex '83 Mk1 Golf GTi Campaign owner and missing it already!
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Local Hero
I see there is a seller on Ebay doing looms for your headlights :
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4529143557&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT
?29.00 for a 2 light system and ?39.00 for a 4 light system delivered . After i posted my first query and followed www.danielsternlighting.com i made my own loom using new parts from http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.co.uk .Total cost was ?16.00 . So if you want to save some ??? and have the satisfaction of doing it your self now there is no excuse .
Chudd…
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4529143557&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT
?29.00 for a 2 light system and ?39.00 for a 4 light system delivered . After i posted my first query and followed www.danielsternlighting.com i made my own loom using new parts from http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.co.uk .Total cost was ?16.00 . So if you want to save some ??? and have the satisfaction of doing it your self now there is no excuse .
Chudd…
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Thre was someone recently in Golf gti forum making some too for either ?20 or ?25
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2002 BMW 745i
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1983 MK1 Golf GTI Campaign Model - Under (looooong) resto!
1962 Rover P4 80
2002 BMW 745i
2008 BMW Z4 2.5Si
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chudd said
After i posted my first query and followed www.danielsternlighting.com i made my own loom using new parts from http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.co.uk .Total cost was ?16.00 .
Chudd…
What part numbers are required?? eg. what relays, what fuses, what wires etc.
Are the fuses contained in the relays?? I want to try and make it as neat as possible. (removable if possible????)
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wiring loom
Surely you must have to have a BA in electrical engineering to be able to understand that lot (re daniel stern).
TC
TC
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If anyone wants to check out the BRM loom on my car I will be bringing it to the AGM tomorrow - just grab me and I'll be happy to pop the bonnet and let you have a look / get an pics or info you might need.
Cheers,
Chris
Cheers,
Chris
ex '83 Mk1 Golf GTi Campaign owner and missing it already!
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Not wishing to appear a bit dense, but how much better does a new loom make the headlamps work. I have the 4 lamp set up on my Cabby and to me when on country lanes with the spots on the output is pretty good as far a distance is concerned.
Do the looms simply 'plug into the lighting system or is it a bit of cut, strip, join and hope everything stays connected ok? or do you have to trace all the wires back to their origins?
Only a thought guys cause I don't know much on this subject.
Ta, Dan
Do the looms simply 'plug into the lighting system or is it a bit of cut, strip, join and hope everything stays connected ok? or do you have to trace all the wires back to their origins?
Only a thought guys cause I don't know much on this subject.
Ta, Dan
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The wiring is dead simple. I made my own for my front fogs, secondary lights (with 120 WATT bulbs in for that "daylight" effect) and my horn (as it was doing the old Mk1 trick of "parp" instead of "HONK".
Basically all you need is a four pole automotive relay from Maplin (or similar). The one you want has connectors marked up as 30, 85, 86 and 87. You also want an inline fuse holder, some decent wire and some crimps.
You connect a wire to the +ve terminal on your battery making sure it has a good connection. The other end of this wire goes to the inline fuse holder. The wire that comes out of the inline fuse holder goes to terminal 30 on the relay. Simple so far? I hope so!
You then run a wire from terminal 87 on the relay one of the connectors on your bulb. The other connector on the bulb then goes to earth. This can either be achieved by connecting it directly to the -ve terminal on the battery or to a bare (ie unpainted) part of the body of the car. (Note if you don't have a VW but are reading this for reference - check you have a negative earth vehicle at this point!).
Okay - that is the wiring for the lamp done - pop in a fuse and you are ready to go.
Now all you need to do is to wire up the switch. The simplest way to do this is to take the old wires that used to go to the lamp/horn/whatever device and connect these to terminals 85 and 86 on the relay.
That is all there is to it - simple. It should now all work perfectly.
You need to mount the relay somewhere where it isn't going to get wet/road grime/oily and make sure none of the wires will rub against anything and rub off their insulation - that is all there is to it!
Best of luck,
Steve Matthews
Mk1 Driver on roaring forties…
Basically all you need is a four pole automotive relay from Maplin (or similar). The one you want has connectors marked up as 30, 85, 86 and 87. You also want an inline fuse holder, some decent wire and some crimps.
You connect a wire to the +ve terminal on your battery making sure it has a good connection. The other end of this wire goes to the inline fuse holder. The wire that comes out of the inline fuse holder goes to terminal 30 on the relay. Simple so far? I hope so!
You then run a wire from terminal 87 on the relay one of the connectors on your bulb. The other connector on the bulb then goes to earth. This can either be achieved by connecting it directly to the -ve terminal on the battery or to a bare (ie unpainted) part of the body of the car. (Note if you don't have a VW but are reading this for reference - check you have a negative earth vehicle at this point!).
Okay - that is the wiring for the lamp done - pop in a fuse and you are ready to go.
Now all you need to do is to wire up the switch. The simplest way to do this is to take the old wires that used to go to the lamp/horn/whatever device and connect these to terminals 85 and 86 on the relay.
That is all there is to it - simple. It should now all work perfectly.
You need to mount the relay somewhere where it isn't going to get wet/road grime/oily and make sure none of the wires will rub against anything and rub off their insulation - that is all there is to it!
Best of luck,
Steve Matthews
Mk1 Driver on roaring forties…
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Steve,
Can you do similar 'Dano proof' instructions for uploading photos into postings and 'readers rides'!
Those lighting directions are great…nice and simple :clap:
Cheers, Dan
Can you do similar 'Dano proof' instructions for uploading photos into postings and 'readers rides'!
Those lighting directions are great…nice and simple :clap:
Cheers, Dan
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Although I have the BRM conversion on my car I am really after a relay / fuse mounting block that I could tidily fix to the inner wing of the car rather than it being just "loose" as it is at the moment.
Would also be nice if there was a realy block / fuse block with one of those water / dust caps on it - anyone know where I might be able to get something like that?
Cheers,
Chris
Would also be nice if there was a realy block / fuse block with one of those water / dust caps on it - anyone know where I might be able to get something like that?
Cheers,
Chris
ex '83 Mk1 Golf GTi Campaign owner and missing it already!
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Local Hero
Chris,
Check these out - have used this company before….
http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.co.uk/VWPweb2000/relays/relays.html
Check these out - have used this company before….
http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.co.uk/VWPweb2000/relays/relays.html
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Hi Rich,
Thanks for that, and thanks for the text yesterday :wink: . Hope the weather for your camping trip was a bit less "showery" than it was up at Gaydon 8O .
Cheers,
Chris
Thanks for that, and thanks for the text yesterday :wink: . Hope the weather for your camping trip was a bit less "showery" than it was up at Gaydon 8O .
Cheers,
Chris
ex '83 Mk1 Golf GTi Campaign owner and missing it already!
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Owning a Mk1 cabby is a vertical learning curve…
1989 Mk1 Clipper 1.8 automatic - Sadly now up for sale - medical issues dictate)
1999 (Nov) Passat S Saloon 1.9 TDI (AFN) - TUG 1 (Remap by CCC ( - **** …..change pants !!) with cruise control
2000 (Mar) Passat Sport Estate 1.9 TDI (ATJ) 5 speed automatic with Tiptronic - TUG 2 (Remap and cruise control by CCC)
1989 Mk1 Clipper 1.8 automatic - Sadly now up for sale - medical issues dictate)
1999 (Nov) Passat S Saloon 1.9 TDI (AFN) - TUG 1 (Remap by CCC ( - **** …..change pants !!) with cruise control
2000 (Mar) Passat Sport Estate 1.9 TDI (ATJ) 5 speed automatic with Tiptronic - TUG 2 (Remap and cruise control by CCC)
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Find a Mk1 Golf Driver in the scrap yard. Ontop of the fuse box is a fuse holder which simply pushes onto the top of the fusebox - its a proper VW "bodge" and was used for the rear foglights as the fuse marked "Fog Lights" was for the round ones in the grill.
You can get automotive relays which have a "hoop" in the top of the plastic casing - this can then be bolted up out of the way…
You can get automotive relays which have a "hoop" in the top of the plastic casing - this can then be bolted up out of the way…
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