garage, timber or brick

As some will know im moving house pretty soon and firtsly want to be building a garage for the mk1's, i feel bad texting Ant off here Basically, what would people suggest, il do the footing myself and will be building roughly 30m2, if timber id make that myself with a joiner best friend, if brick id have to pay for the work to be done.

done right timber garages can look quite nice an appealing, the house is white brick which seems to be hard to find a match for from what ive looked at.

any suggestions or advice?

cheers, Brad

Ive read timber is good (for cars) as it breathes as you said can also look good. How ever fire potential always worries me as does security, so brick/concrete for me.

Remember the story of the 'Big bad Wolf and the Three little Piglets'!  

idea is you line the inside with non combustable board in a timber garage, reading up on the planning portal that is.

the house is in a quite cul-de-sac in a decent area (there are ok areas in sheffield   )

concrete panel with apex roof.  quick to install, easy to maintain, non of the fire risk of wood, some benefits of brick.  insulate well and can be extended if and when, can also be externally rendered and painted to match house.

i have looked at pre fab ones also, usually go on ebay quite cheap!

It is easy to insulate and fire proof timber. Timber might be more flexible and a non permanent structure so not tied to planning. And it's quicker.

here to help Brad, you have helped loads of people on here, glad I could be of some assistance 

ant5 said

It is easy to insulate and fire proof timber. Timber might be more flexible and a non permanent structure so not tied to planning. And it's quicker.

here to help Brad, you have helped loads of people on here, glad I could be of some assistance 

  cheers man, feel bad texting you all the time lol

im swaying towards timber at the moment, clad with shiplap for the looks, and as said its less likely for planning.

if a decent prefab comes along, usually go for 300-600 locally id be tempted.

Still need to comply with permitted development though. Best bet is to talk with local planner for what you can and can't do. Fairly sure that both wood and prefab are classed as non permenant.

looked at permitted, if im 1m away from boundary and non cumbastable it can be upto 30m2

correct me if im worng… once im in the house i will be ringing the council just to clarify

Pre cast concrete garages are not good, I would avoid at all costs. I've lost count the numbers that are demolished each year.

You can buy pre fabricated timber garages that just bolt together these look good and do not require skilled labour to erect.

go for timber as it is kinder to the car and to the world so it is a win win situation you cant lose

I've had a pre cast concrete one before and always had damp problems, my mum and mum in law both have them and again same issues.

swaying towards timber massively, it would be behind gates at my house anyway wih security cameras etc, not overly fussed over the safety side.

as ant said, insulate it properly and all is well, going to ask a brikie at work a rough price for a block built to weigh up…

Precast only suffers damp due to poor ventilation, normally because people see a gap around the top of the fascia panel and try to block it up.
They are also thin walled so moisture in the air will cool on the walls quicker in the winter.
If you do the same treatment to a wooden building (block up the vents) it will also suffer from damp, along with mold growth because of the timber treatment.  
I'll stick to prefab (mainly because I have one lol)

Timber garages can be very nice . I have seen many advertised in the back of magazines such as Classic and Sports car. However I do like the idea of brick since it is virtually maintenance free. I built a double garage in brick on an existing concrete slab using permitted development which limits the height to 4m. It is a good size but now feels cramped due to the amount of stuff I have accumulated. I am now going to double the size by extending it backwards since I have plenty of space in the garden.  Do the footings yourself and get a brickie to put up the walls. Your friend can help with the roof and tiling is normally straight forward. Your brick built may cost more but will need little ongoing costs.

torn at the moment between brick and timber, il be doing the base with a mate too so its only the bricking/materials cost il have.

the size i can build is pretty confusing    im only a welder  

planning:
"Maximum height of 2.5 metres in the case of a building, enclosure or container  within two metres of a boundary of the curtilage of the dwellinghouse"

building regs:
"Building a detached garage of less than 30 square metres floor area would not normally need building regulations approval if:

the floor area of the detached garage is less than 15 square metres.
the floor area of the garage is between 15 square metres and 30  square metres, provided the garage is at least one metre from any boundary, or it is constructed from substantially non-combustible materials."

does this mean i can build close to my boundary if its brick or non cumbustible and doesnt exceed 30m2 or 2.5m in height (i want a flat roof)

going to ring the council later to ask them about it but want to know my facts first.

I'm about to extend my existing brick garage. Basically doubling the length to allow storage of bikes, jetskis and other junk.

I plan on timber as I can do it myself and can easily change/adapt as required. I'll be cladding the outside of the brick garage in timber so from the side it look's like one 50ft long building.

golfcabrio said

Remember the story of the 'Big bad Wolf and the Three little Piglets'!  

was just thinking that as reading the first post.

If it were me Brad I would go for brick for durability and security mate. Down to costs I suppose at the end of the day.

cost is the main battle tbh mate, want out of my unit before lease is due again in feb   see if the house goes through fully first