Removing Fuel Pump???
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Removing Fuel Pump???
Started on the resto of my Cabby, obviously as I start to take bits off it's alot worse than I thought.
Tried to fire the car up, but it looks like the fuel pump has given up the ghost. Reckon it's gummed up with 6 year old petrol.
The bracket holding it on, kinda fell apart when I was taking it off, but the feed and the return pipe (at least I think it's the return pipe) are welded onto the pump.. Question is how best to get them off? I have soaked them in WD 40, plus gas and they aint shifting…
Anyone any ideas??? I would use heat of some sort but I am a bit nervous using it on the petrol pump. Even thought the petrol is about explosive as week piss.
Also I thought that there would be wires running into it but I dont see any..
Help please….
Tried to fire the car up, but it looks like the fuel pump has given up the ghost. Reckon it's gummed up with 6 year old petrol.
The bracket holding it on, kinda fell apart when I was taking it off, but the feed and the return pipe (at least I think it's the return pipe) are welded onto the pump.. Question is how best to get them off? I have soaked them in WD 40, plus gas and they aint shifting…
Anyone any ideas??? I would use heat of some sort but I am a bit nervous using it on the petrol pump. Even thought the petrol is about explosive as week piss.
Also I thought that there would be wires running into it but I dont see any..
Help please….
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ew said
You could try applying some heat from a hot air gun or hairdryer to make the metal expand enough to crack the corrosion (obviously no naked flame) worked for me.
Not overly familiar with cabby's, but you would think an electric fuel pump would need some wires
Good luck
Let us know how you get on .
Agreed, This is why I am wondering what the hell is going on with it.
I pulled it off last night, so I am wondering if the failing light has stopped me from seeing it. :dontknow:
It's pouring with rain just now and the footie is about to start, so i am going to leave it just now. Have a look in the morning if it's not to wet.
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Local Hero

Please don't use hot air guns flames or heat to remove any fuel parts .
We need Mk1 enthusiasts
Try junior hack saw to remove all old clamps etc , use small screwdriver or similar to wrench the old pipes off by shoving down between the pipe and the pump to break the seals . Last resort cut pipes , buy new , your restoring and bringing back to life an old girl so a few pipes added to the shopping list won't go amiss .
Chudd…………..
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Try junior hack saw to remove all old clamps etc , use small screwdriver or similar to wrench the old pipes off by shoving down between the pipe and the pump to break the seals . Last resort cut pipes , buy new , your restoring and bringing back to life an old girl so a few pipes added to the shopping list won't go amiss .
Chudd…………..
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Old Timer

I would agree with Chudd and steer well clear of any form of heat.
Been there with and earth wire from the carb and a wee bit of excess petrol on the carb plate.
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Not a nice feeling seeing a car engine in flames and franticly trying to get a extinguisher before BOOOOOOM :mrgreen:
Been there with and earth wire from the carb and a wee bit of excess petrol on the carb plate.

Not a nice feeling seeing a car engine in flames and franticly trying to get a extinguisher before BOOOOOOM :mrgreen:
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Old Timer

A set of pliers and a good wiggle and shougle should release it other wise quick fix would be a new pump and fuel lines….
Shouldn?t cost too much, if the pump is giving you probs now I would be inclined to just replace it anyway
Good luck :mrgreen:
Shouldn?t cost too much, if the pump is giving you probs now I would be inclined to just replace it anyway
Good luck :mrgreen:
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crazyquiff said
If it has no wires you may be looking at the accumulator rather than the fuel pump!
Is this attached to the fuel pump ? :dontknow:
It's been pouring with rain all day here, so not had a chance to have a look.
Sorry for the daft questions, I am coming over from the Aircooled VW scene and things were a little simpler…

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Old Timer

This is from memory, so apologies if it's wrong.
The fuel pump is very close to the fuel tank and from memory there is only a few inches of rubber hose betwen the tank outlet and the intake of the pump. Normally comes off quite easily. There is then a metal braided hose that runs from the pump to the accumulator, and another that runs from the accumulator to the metal pipe that takes the fuel to the front of the car.
The pump itself is right next to the sill on the right hand side of the car and housed in a metal box. The accumulator is a little bit further back normally.
Note of caution. If you undo the rubber hose from the tank to the pump, your fuel tank will prompty empty itself through the hose! So either drain it before removing it, of get a bit of normal garden hose (which fits over the tank outlet nicely!) and some proper fuel containers to drain it into. Tank when full is approx 50 litres. When the gauge registers on the first white line my car needed 2 five litre containers to take all the fuel in the tank.
Hope that helps.
Mike.
The fuel pump is very close to the fuel tank and from memory there is only a few inches of rubber hose betwen the tank outlet and the intake of the pump. Normally comes off quite easily. There is then a metal braided hose that runs from the pump to the accumulator, and another that runs from the accumulator to the metal pipe that takes the fuel to the front of the car.
The pump itself is right next to the sill on the right hand side of the car and housed in a metal box. The accumulator is a little bit further back normally.
Note of caution. If you undo the rubber hose from the tank to the pump, your fuel tank will prompty empty itself through the hose! So either drain it before removing it, of get a bit of normal garden hose (which fits over the tank outlet nicely!) and some proper fuel containers to drain it into. Tank when full is approx 50 litres. When the gauge registers on the first white line my car needed 2 five litre containers to take all the fuel in the tank.
Hope that helps.
Mike.
1983 White cabriolet GTi
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Maniac said
This is from memory, so apologies if it's wrong.
The fuel pump is very close to the fuel tank and from memory there is only a few inches of rubber hose betwen the tank outlet and the intake of the pump. Normally comes off quite easily. There is then a metal braided hose that runs from the pump to the accumulator, and another that runs from the accumulator to the metal pipe that takes the fuel to the front of the car.
The pump itself is right next to the sill on the right hand side of the car and housed in a metal box. The accumulator is a little bit further back normally.
Note of caution. If you undo the rubber hose from the tank to the pump, your fuel tank will prompty empty itself through the hose! So either drain it before removing it, of get a bit of normal garden hose (which fits over the tank outlet nicely!) and some proper fuel containers to drain it into. Tank when full is approx 50 litres. When the gauge registers on the first white line my car needed 2 five litre containers to take all the fuel in the tank.
Hope that helps.
Mike.
Outstanding mate, it's starting to sound like what I seen the other day but the light was fading…

Excellent, thanks for your help. I am going to order a few parts from GSF tomorrow, so a new fule pump and realy will be on the list.
Thanks for all the help guys, and manic for the detailed description.
I will post some pics a.s.a.p
Cheers
Stevie
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Local Hero

Isn't there a pump inside the tank on a cabby too???
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Ahhh, yes you are right. See mine is an older one, 1983, so has a setup simelar to the normal tintop GTi. the later cabs did have a lift pump inside the tank, and therefore the fuel outlet is at the top of the tank on these, and not at the bottom as I stated in my previous post. I always forget the later cabs were different, as I've only ever owned older ones!!
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