Problems with running and strange noise
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Cabriolet gti
When I turn ignition on, there is a loud whining sort of sound from the driver's side of the car, which stays as long as the ignition is left on.
When I turn it over it takes a while to start, I have to gradually press down the accelerator until it fires up.
When running it's good until every now and then and then it misses and dies. Normally during acceleration. It also runs strange on tick over to. It will almost die, then rev itself back again. The car has only done around 500 miles in the last year, mainly last summer.
Any help would be most appreciated.
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1986 GTI Cabriolet ("dambuster")
2000 Mk4 Cabriolet Avantgarde (bought for the mrs)
2001 Zafira 1.8
2000 Mk4 Cabriolet Avantgarde (bought for the mrs)
2001 Zafira 1.8
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The "tick" that you are hearing where is it coming from Front engine left or right rear……
Hard starts on each are a little more difficult to shotgun answer until we know your fuel type.
One thing that comes to mind, full tank or partial.
Vacuum leaks cause these kinds of issue regardless of fuel type.
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I had the same problem.
New lift pump is £25 ish and is about 1/2 hours job to change over.
If you lift the base of the back seat up and remove the black round cover you will see the top of the fuel tank and 2 fuel lines coming out and an electrical connecter, if you unplug the connecter while the car is running do you hear a change in noise from the fuel pump?
1988 Mk1 Golf GTi Cabriolet 1.8cc DX, K-jet. Daily drive. 317,000 miles and counting
1978 Mk1 Scirocco GLS 1.6cc FR, Webber carb. Weekend toy.
1978 Mk1 Scirocco GLS 1.6cc FR, Webber carb. Weekend toy.
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1986 GTI Cabriolet ("dambuster")
2000 Mk4 Cabriolet Avantgarde (bought for the mrs)
2001 Zafira 1.8
2000 Mk4 Cabriolet Avantgarde (bought for the mrs)
2001 Zafira 1.8
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Yours engine will be a DX and should have the same filter as mine.
Mann WK834/1 is what I use and can be bought from here.
http://www.vwspares.co.uk/g1filters.php
or here
http://www.classic-vw.co.uk/fuel-filters-830-c.asp
Its also best to fit some new washers to the fuel filter one side is the same size as a sump plug washer and the other side are slightly smaller.
There is 2 types of fuel filter fitted to a DX engine the later cars have the larger type like mine and cars built before 1984 have a smaller filter.
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1988 Mk1 Golf GTi Cabriolet 1.8cc DX, K-jet. Daily drive. 317,000 miles and counting
1978 Mk1 Scirocco GLS 1.6cc FR, Webber carb. Weekend toy.
1978 Mk1 Scirocco GLS 1.6cc FR, Webber carb. Weekend toy.
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Local Hero
If it was me I would not use the Crosland filters as the quality is not great.
http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Audi_100_2.0_1991/p/car-parts/regular-service/car-service-parts/fuel-filter/?503880018&1&0f68090fd1fa0c03ed12a220d099f69f77da2d51&000140
1988 Mk1 Golf GTi Cabriolet 1.8cc DX, K-jet. Daily drive. 317,000 miles and counting
1978 Mk1 Scirocco GLS 1.6cc FR, Webber carb. Weekend toy.
1978 Mk1 Scirocco GLS 1.6cc FR, Webber carb. Weekend toy.
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Local Hero
The rear main pump has to draw the fuel through a bunch of stuff. Anything that obstructs it makes it whine because it as to do more work.
In 84.5 VW started to use an in-tank lift pump to push fuel out of the tank and in through the Accumulator and Filter/Sump. This is a White Plastic affair on the driver side of your tank clipped to the seam…
Now the in-tank pump fails usually when it fails then you
have an obstruction to the system and the main pump will whine that it has to really work.
The in-tank pump uses the fuel or petrol 2 ways, one as a lubricant, Two as a coolant. Since the in-tank pump is in an enclosed area the petrol is used externally to keep it cool. When the tank is 1/4 full it is half exposed, and tends to over heat taking itself out. So don't drive on 1/4 tanks for extended periods. Like I put a couple of quid in and drove for 5 days, then a couple more quid so you are constantly driving on less than 1/4.
Daughter burned through 3 fuel pumps before she learned…. (glad the pump has a LLW)….
The other issue with the in-tank pumps is that the rubber hose that connects the pump to the sending unit dissolves.
Dissolves is a better description, but gets soft and the pump can fall down, or the connection hose holes itself and you pump fuel back in to the tank as well as to the main.
Here is a how do I do that.
1984.5-1993 mk1 How to change your in-tank fuel pump | Volkswagen Owners Club Forum
Now for your radiator, there is a trick to trimming the Shroud to make it easier to put on or off.
http://volkswagenownersclub.com/vw/showthread.php/32213-Triming-your-Radiator-Shroud
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yours will have the CE1 fusebox:
http://www.clubgti.com/showthread.php?219775
for the fueling issues if its a GTI follow the basic kjet procedures in this thread, ignore the 16v specific stuff:
http://www.vwgolfmk2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25972
for timing belt setup use the marks as pictured in this thread, but ignore all the setup procedures:
http://www.vwgolfmk2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=14915
for the ignition timing this is done at idle, with the vacuum line to the distributor disconnected and plugged. you use the same diamond marker as per the 2 threads above with your basic timing light.
for idle & co set it to around 900rpm and co to around 1.5%, it may be best to get a garage to tune the CO for you as the DIY CO meters tend to be rubbish in my experience
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So far I've changed the fuel pump relay and the lift pump.
I still have the loud whirring/whining noise from behind the driver's door.
It also takes ages to start, hot or cold. You can turn key and it will take a good 10-15 seconds of constant turning before it fires up, or if you progressivly press the accelerater it will start when the pedal touches the floor. I've changed plugs, leads and cleaned up the dizzy and rotar arm.
Any help would be much appreciated.
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Adammmm said
Thanks for all the help guys.
So far I've changed the fuel pump relay and the lift pump.
I still have the loud whirring/whining noise from behind the driver's door.
I would bet one of the following is your issue.
The Filter that is on the left side clipped to the fuel tank (kind of hidden.)
The Accumulator,
or
The main pump is telling you that CA-CA is about to occur.
The reason for the hard starts is that the main pump is loosing pressure or quantity… There is also a check valve in the system… But me thinks your main pump is going the way of the Do-Do bird.
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1986 GTI Cabriolet ("dambuster")
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2001 Zafira 1.8
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2001 Zafira 1.8
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