Lazy to engage Starter
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Sometimes when the key is turned from ignition to start the car nothing happens apart from the dash lights (oil, charging, handbrake and clock) dimming, wait a moment and then the starter turns the engine over nice and fast and it bursts into life.
This does not happen every time, sometimes it works perfectly but then on Monday morning leaving for work on the third turn of the key i held it there, and after about four seconds the starter burst into life and the car ran. I had thought the heat was causing it (it tended to happen when the engine was still hot from use), but Monday morning proved otherwise as the car had sat overnight.
So the battery is showing full charge (14.6v), and when the engine does crank it turns over fast, showing a battery with decent charge.
The starter is the original, if the solenoid was getting lazy then surely the starter would turn over but not be engaged? So make a whizzing noise?
Apart from those i'm considering the ignition switch, or wiring.
I am leaning towards the battery at the moment, i've had a not to dissimilar starting fault on my B3 Passat (fully charged battery that would intermittantly not crank over the car yet still show charge). Therefore i changed the battery in the Golf over to a spare last night, the problem has not shown today but being intermittant only time will tell.
Whilst i'm waiting for time to tell i wondered what other peoples thoughts were? I'd like to sort it before driving up to the AGM from Devon.
Thanks guys.
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Local Hero
1988 Mk1 Golf GTi Cabriolet 1.8cc DX, K-jet. Daily drive. 317,000 miles and counting
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Local Hero
Turned out to be the electric switch at the bottom of the ignition lock. Pretty cheap and easy bolt off/on. There is no need to drill out anything like the Haynes book of lies tells you to do.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Ignition-Switch-T1-Beetle-Buggy-Ghia-Bay-Window-MK1-MK2-Golf-Jetta-Caddy-T25/161979721175?hash=item25b6be65d7:g:WPIAAOSwll1Wwxy8
1983 Mars Red 1.8 Golf GTI
1987 Alpine White 1.8 Clipper Cabriolet
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1987 Alpine White 1.8 Clipper Cabriolet
The trouble with doing nothing is that you never know when you are finished.
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Local Hero
originally designed for automatics, but works great for manuals too.
http://www.cabby-info.com/Files/InstallingHot-startRelay.pdf
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Old Timer
I cleaned it all out and put back together but now occasionally does nothing for 3 seconds then starts fine. I suspect the brushes/holders but looked like they had lots of meat on them when put back together. might be worth checking the brushes in yours if you can be bothered to take it apart
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Surely if it was the ignition switch then the lights would not dim when it happens? And if it was the starter then the starter would either click as the solenoid livens or whine as the motor spins without the solenoid working?
I have to say though (touch wood) a change of battery and so far the problem hasn't resurfaced yet. This includes pootling around tonight to see where houses are (we're house shopping at the mo, not just being creepy!) which included the fan cutting in and out and lots of starting and stopping of the engine. We will see.
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