GTi down pipe.

Just a question for you Gti chaps. just converted my manifold. It was the older type with C clips. Now i have installed a Mk2 GTI PB head manifold on my 1.6 carbed engine. Fits like a glove. The down pipe has the 6 Bolts two exhaust outputs.

Question, would the Mk1 Gti down pipe fit on the mk2 flange?. There must be a 6 bolt version. Also are the gaskets the same?
I know the down pipe is well different from a Mk2. But hoping the the Mk1 downpipe will fit.

Thanks in advance
Andy

hi trouble with the mk2 manifold the down pipe connects behind 3 and 4 cylinders and the mk1 is more between 2 and 3,( in the middle on the side) even if the downpipe would bolt up you would need to alter and re fabricate a new down pipe, your better off with a mk1 gti manifold or your c clap one as the cabs and scirrocos went to these on the later gti models anyway.

I would suspect it would (can't be certain..my daughter's not here at the mo!…between us we know everything!)

My '82 1600 GTI (EG Engine) has the six stud down pipe …ETKA also lists it for DX as well as the spring clip pipe.  I would suspect the gasket is the same but the rest of the pipes may not mate up with what's left of your original system.  Someone here will know for certain.

In any case you really should consider obtaining (from whence I know not) the original pattern heatshields else you could be cooking your steering rack/drive shaft gaiters, etc.

055 253 701 A and 055 253 701 B  (not the same as your spring clip pipe)

Cheers

im going to my local parts center and see if i can obtain one of these. thanks chaps

Yep you're better off sticking with the C clip manifold and down pipe you originally had. Sealing rings are about ?5
They may be a pain to fit but at least you can still get heat shields easily from VW and the special tool for removing the C clips is only about ?25 from www.toolbay.biz.

I have a MK1 dual downpipe manifold and a MK2 dual downpipe manifold.  They are not the same bolt pattern at the downpipe interface.  Somebody may make a downpipe that fits the MK1 when using a MK2 exhaust manifold, but I don't know.  I got my downpipe from a company called Techtonics Tuning.  For a heat shield I just wrapped the downpipe with ceramic header wrap.  It is cheap, easy, and works great.

One thing to keep in mind…  I would not buy the Techtonics unit again because it does not have enough flex.  You need flex or you will break those little studs and have a nice exhaust leak.  My manifold is from a diesel, with the downpipe mentioned.  I should have spent the little extra and bought real headers (no gasket in the middle = no leaks in the middle).

The stock unit with the C-clips is a joke of a design.  You can notice the power difference between it and the dual down pipe manifolds pretty easily if you rev the motor fairly often.

Matthew

yup matt, the mk2 manifold and the mk1 downpipe wont fit each other. the only way i see gettin around this is a 4 branch, ashley or somthin. ohh well back to the C clip manifold n down pipe. cheerzz for the replys