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I've booked my cabby in for a tune and rolling road, my mate rekons as its 20yrs old it will only be putting around 60bhp at the wheels. Its a 1.8 GTi, standard engine, what figures do you rekon i should be looking at?? Surely its got to be more than 60 bhp??

1989 VW GOLF GTI CABRIO

1997 VW POLO 1.0L

2003 VW PASSAT TDI 130 SPORT

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What mileage?

I will go for 94 BHP. (At the wheels)  

what do i win!! what do i win!! :D

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8v GTi's were 112bhp

I'd go for 98bhp :D

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Were they 112 at the wheels?
I'll go for 85.

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R11ysf said

Were they 112 at the wheels?
I'll go for 85.

112bhp at the flywheel I'd imagine.

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91.5 i'll go for

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89!

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72 at wheels 8O

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83 golf driver (now a gti)
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i'd be tempted to say it may break the 100 mark, find they tend to get better with age as long as they're been looked after

but what do i know  :roll:

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^^^ optimist!  :P

I'd say if it's all good.. 90Bhp at the wheels

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116 bhp older the better

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:lol:  8) I like your thinking!

edit: long day!

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Mileage is 103000, i'm rekoning between 85 and 90. Are any of the guesses so far through expierience or just pure guesses??

1989 VW GOLF GTI CABRIO

1997 VW POLO 1.0L

2003 VW PASSAT TDI 130 SPORT

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if its getting a tune and on that milage i'd defo say 100+ at wheels

experience is, like a fine wine (eeek!!!) they get better with age especially when they're looked after

my bro's standard 1.8, regularly serviced with a k&n… didnt fair to bad against a 1.9 8v with all the mods (cam, TB, exhaust etc built by Tim Saunders of the phirm… pre-phirm days)… easily 120-125 maybe more

even he'll admit now that my bro's engine was tight as… and those engines get better with age ;) lol

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staffords said

Mileage is 103000, i'm rekoning between 85 and 90. Are any of the guesses so far through expierience or just pure guesses??

100% guess,  i haven't a clue but based on age etc

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Will have to post up the results, i'm not too bothered what its putting out to be honest i just want it running 100%.

1989 VW GOLF GTI CABRIO

1997 VW POLO 1.0L

2003 VW PASSAT TDI 130 SPORT

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a good tune on rollers will always get the best results

have you had her serviced? (plugs, ht leads, dizzy cap, rotar arm etc etc) that'll always be the 1st suggestion from any tuner upperer so its always worth spending a couple of ??'s to make sure she's at her best 1st

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Its getting serviced next week hopefully before i take it for tuning  :wink:

1989 VW GOLF GTI CABRIO

1997 VW POLO 1.0L

2003 VW PASSAT TDI 130 SPORT

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coolage!

forgot to mention, throw your ear around the engine bay to listen out for any air leaks in your breathers, they can play havoc with your timing and mixture which is what a good tune is all about so just make sure they're all tight :wink:

also, give you injectors a little wiggle… if there's play then your seals have gone a lil brittle and lost thier seal… only a couple of penny each so they're usually worth doing, just be carefull pulling the injectors out as they can be snap happy (as rossirvine found out!) :banghead: , just cut the old seals/'O' rings off and with a lil washing up liquid or light oil, the new ones will slip slide right on  :mrgreen:

as you can probably see… i want her hitting 100+bhp!!! LOL  :roll:

'69 MG Midget 1275 (currently restoring, cammed and ported head) '81 Lhasa 1600 GTi - kent GS25 (294) cam, full supersprint mani back, filter, 2.2 throttle body '82 Audi 80 Sport '97 20VT Passat (AEB with a 57i) '84 Silver Campaign - DX but AEB coming

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101 bhp??

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