Why buy a Campaign over a late series 2 GTI?!

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What an interesting read!   

Is it possible that the campaign helps to keep prices up for good quality Mk1's in general - a sort of umbrella effect? Personally I wanted a top condition Mk1, not just a campaign but enthusiasts hanker after campaigns so good quality non campaign Mk1's are quite expensive too (found out from experience   ) - just a thought.

I have also owned a run out Mk2 Gti on a J plate and its one of the best standard cars I have ever owned. I would say that the Mk2 is a good daily gti, more comfortable, more rust protection, more toys, lovelly balance but it does not come close to the Mk1 if you like proper, original hot hatch style thrills - ie. light feeling, lightening response, buzzy kind of car with great on the limit handling. I can understand why people pay a premium for the run out model of such a defining car.

Having owned all Mk's one way or another (and had a blast in the Mk5 as well), I think I will always have a Mk1 in the garage as to me they are what a Gti is all about.

I prefer the minimalist style of the single lamp grill - so understated and unassuming. Plus the car looks retro in a really cool way.  I know I just bought a Campaign (and it is absolutely amazing to drive - even better than my Mk1 75k GTI but that probably due to the steering wheel being leather and straight - need to adjust the other one but never got round to it.  Doing 100 round dual-carriageway bends on the A12 without feeling anything untoward on the way back home!)  The reason why I bought the Campaign is the same reason why I have a run-out Mk2 16v:
1. Because I am a bloody snob.
2. Because it is harder to find mint early examples - unrestored that is.

Sorry the last post should have read that I have a Mk2 16v instead of a Mk2 8v - I prefer the 8v.

stew72 said

illyun said

Mk1 vs Mk2 8v/16v

Why do I prefer the Mk2?  Well I feel that it is better as an all round car.  It performs just as well as the Mk1 in the performance and handling stakes, but is refined enough to use as a daily drive ? what more could you want?  However, I think that the Mk1 is a better car if you want a weekend car

I disagree with the comment on the handling. To most people the mk2 seems as good as the mk1 if not better because its a more reassuring chassis and many mk1's are not set up for optimum handling. If you get a well sorted mk1 it is more capable than a mk2, its just a lot more work  :wink:

My MK2 is pretty nasty round the corners. It's quite understeery and the steering is really heavy. According to the local tyre centre it's all set up right though :roll:

My MK1 in comparison was quite light on the steering even parking (when it did drive) and never really got much understeer.
No preference which to take on a long drive though!!

A Mk2 GTI not cornering well?!  Hmm… maybe you should take your Mk2 to a VAG specialist as that doesn't sound right!!  I take it that you have an early non-PAS model.  I haven't driven those but I would have thought the handling would be the same or even better given the superior feedback through the steering wheel.

A non PAS Mk2 steering is very heavy and does not have as much feel as the Mk1. The Mk2 with PAS robs some of that feedback (although its very good and light) so I'm with Mk1 as well dude.  8)

i think the late s2 are better than the campaigns…

(here we go again….. )

personally, i don't think it matters too much. all mk1 gti's are just great in my eyes. (that doesn't inlcude the floppy roofed pretenders mind. they're not a proper mk1 are they.)

ah… i remeber this thred, campaigns are way to common, they have A reg plate ( which i dont like :roll: ) they have a hole in the roof :roll:  and they have to many lights :roll: , there also slower then the other models especially the Helious blue ones :posh:

bring it on :twisted:

marsredgti sell me your car  :pray:

dojodubber said

marsredgti sell me your car  :pray:

 :posh:  :dance:




 8O  :starwars:

marsredgti said

dojodubber said

marsredgti sell me your car  :pray:

 :posh:  :dance:




 8O  :starwars:

 :tlc:

How about a Pirelli Edition?

Rarer than a Campaign with all the creature comforts and mine has no sunroof!!!! :wink:

stew72 said

I too prefer a late series 2 over a campaign, I prfer the cars on 13" wheels for a start.

However the best incarnation of the mk1…….


see my sig  :wink:

 

have you got any pics of ur 85 golf is it a b reg i have two b reg gti's a 8v sportline and a one off vw motorsport 16v but want to find a rare A reg mk2 gti

If I was in the market for a Mk1 Golf GTI I'd buy the best example I could afford.

I wouldn't spend the same money on a rough Campaign after having walked away from a lovely non-Campaign that was the same price.

My most recent Golf was a Campaign but I didn't buy it for that reason - I bought it because it was a tidy Mk1 GTI in a colour I liked.  The fact it was a Campaign didn't come out until after I'd agreed to buy it.

I wouldn't say "no" to a Campaign but at the same token, I wouldn't say "no" to a 1.6 or 1.8 non-Campaign GTI if it was tidy and at the right price.

The late Mk2's with their fancy bits were run out models like the Campaign was for the MK1, and they were a darn sight better than the MK3 - period.

Mk2's can be made to feel like MK1's with selective mods like urethane wishbone bushes, rear beam bush inserts and rack mounts, and proper geometry checks.

The Campaign had all the goodies fitted, and some were even specced up by the dealers, but the story starts with the MK1, and that is why good - and not so good - ones fetch premium prices.

Lets face it, since the advent of the MK4, even MK2's feel dated - and I wouldn't even consider a MK3 unless it was a later cabriolet with the MK4 front and the sweet AFT 1.6 100bhp engine (we had a Jazz Blue SE and loved it to bits)…

Who said anything about Mk2 Golfs?