83 gti 16v
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Old Timer
83 gti
I have had this stuck in my garage for the last few years so decided to get cracking and make some progress. when I first got it I thought all it needed was putting back together but soon realised the paint was not done very well and would need to be redone. made a start stripping the paint but came to a standstill when I bought another golf project, restored that then sold it and then had a campaign project which I have also now sold.
who knows when it was last on the road but was told it was at least 18 years ago, thankfully someone coated the underside in oil so has stayed in fairly good shape. in that time the original engine had been replaced with an ABF on KR kjet but not very well so will need a rebuild before i use it.
the shell is fairly straight and solid, its had a new repro front panel fitted and a used genuine rear panel fitted along with some of the boot floor however it looked a bit untidy and had a couple of small holes in the wheel well that were not welded so have removed the rear panel. I luckily found the vin plate when i removed the dash as the previous owner thought it was lost so riveted that back on so i dont lose it.
i have been collecting a few parts for when it is time to rebuild it
Zender kit
spax rsx
recently got these colour concept recaros that were in a mk2 rallye
making the rear upholstry fit on a mk1 rear bench frame, they are 2/3 spit in the mk3 they came from so stitched them together.
also got a dash surround and a gti engineering wheel to go on.
i have had this mint citi golf bonnet for about 10 years
decided to replace the section the rear washer bottle sits on so also got that to weld in
as it sits now
who knows when it was last on the road but was told it was at least 18 years ago, thankfully someone coated the underside in oil so has stayed in fairly good shape. in that time the original engine had been replaced with an ABF on KR kjet but not very well so will need a rebuild before i use it.
the shell is fairly straight and solid, its had a new repro front panel fitted and a used genuine rear panel fitted along with some of the boot floor however it looked a bit untidy and had a couple of small holes in the wheel well that were not welded so have removed the rear panel. I luckily found the vin plate when i removed the dash as the previous owner thought it was lost so riveted that back on so i dont lose it.
i have been collecting a few parts for when it is time to rebuild it
Zender kit
spax rsx
recently got these colour concept recaros that were in a mk2 rallye
making the rear upholstry fit on a mk1 rear bench frame, they are 2/3 spit in the mk3 they came from so stitched them together.
also got a dash surround and a gti engineering wheel to go on.
i have had this mint citi golf bonnet for about 10 years
decided to replace the section the rear washer bottle sits on so also got that to weld in
as it sits now
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Old Timer
work on the rear end
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Local Hero
Nice to see you back on it
I like the Zender kit. Will it be going back on?
I like the Zender kit. Will it be going back on?
Andy
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1983 MK1 Golf GTI Campaign Model - Under (looooong) resto!
1962 Rover P4 80
2002 BMW 745i
2008 BMW Z4 2.5Si
LINCOLNSHIRE REGION - https://www.facebook.com/groups/467122313360002/
1983 MK1 Golf GTI Campaign Model - Under (looooong) resto!
1962 Rover P4 80
2002 BMW 745i
2008 BMW Z4 2.5Si
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Old Timer
yes the zender kit will be fitted, I have been spending a bit of time plastic welding a few small cracks and prepping it for paint. I dug through my bumpers and found a pair of very good irons that I will be using to mount it on,
i have the pump, tank and rear axle off the car, stripped the rear axle down, removed bushes, arb, drums etc. managed to get the arb mounts off without destroying the clamps. i have cleaned the rust off the small parts using electrolysis and it works very well.
i have the pump, tank and rear axle off the car, stripped the rear axle down, removed bushes, arb, drums etc. managed to get the arb mounts off without destroying the clamps. i have cleaned the rust off the small parts using electrolysis and it works very well.
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Old Timer
lets see if I can load some pics this time
original bumper irons with very little rust
original bumper irons with very little rust
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Old Timer
try again
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Old Timer
holy bejesus it worked!
trying electrolysis on a fuel pipe and injector
before
after 12 hours
noticed a few of the parts I have still have the paint markings from the production line If anyone is interested.
rear axle
rear arb
driveshaft I think the yellow splodge is indicating the flange bolts have been torqued
shocks
hubs have a green mark i cant make out
wishbone, looks like a date but not sure
trying electrolysis on a fuel pipe and injector
before
after 12 hours
noticed a few of the parts I have still have the paint markings from the production line If anyone is interested.
rear axle
rear arb
driveshaft I think the yellow splodge is indicating the flange bolts have been torqued
shocks
hubs have a green mark i cant make out
wishbone, looks like a date but not sure
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Old Timer
better pic of hub marking
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Old Timer
also got myself a new/old daily
pearl white audi 80 quattro 1.8 8v, probably will drop an abf in it eventually
pearl white audi 80 quattro 1.8 8v, probably will drop an abf in it eventually
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Old Timer
has the factory fitted soaking wet carpet so has the interior out to dry at the moment
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Old Timer
made a start cleaning up the injector lines, they were fairly good but had a little rust on the ends. I had them in the electrolysis bucket for 12 hours on each end also taped the injector lines together to make it a bit easier
then polished them up
also put the brake compensator valve in, this is how it comes out of the bucket and is brushed off
then polished them up
also put the brake compensator valve in, this is how it comes out of the bucket and is brushed off
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Local Hero
Liking the 'new' Quattro
That's some hours gone in to those fuel lines, but all polished up they look good
That's some hours gone in to those fuel lines, but all polished up they look good
Andy
LINCOLNSHIRE REGION - https://www.facebook.com/groups/467122313360002/
1983 MK1 Golf GTI Campaign Model - Under (looooong) resto!
1962 Rover P4 80
2002 BMW 745i
2008 BMW Z4 2.5Si
LINCOLNSHIRE REGION - https://www.facebook.com/groups/467122313360002/
1983 MK1 Golf GTI Campaign Model - Under (looooong) resto!
1962 Rover P4 80
2002 BMW 745i
2008 BMW Z4 2.5Si
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Old Timer
worse thing is its not on the road and we had snow, in cornwall, so probably only have to wait another 15 years for that to happen again , the polishing really didn't take that long once they have the rust taken off, bit of fine wire wool then autosol, probably less than 3 hours for the 7 pipes. I may look in to plating or anodising them
been doing a bit more body work, prepping for paint so not much progress being made, i pinched a heat sheild for the steering gaitor off a mate who broke an audi tt 180, fits very well
been doing a bit more body work, prepping for paint so not much progress being made, i pinched a heat sheild for the steering gaitor off a mate who broke an audi tt 180, fits very well
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Old Timer
picked up some cheap (£50) compomotive alloys so had a go at polishing them. they had already been blasted so does not take long to get them looking ok, I made them rotate with a rear hub on some blocks of wood and a drill with a rubber wheel on so saves a bit of time using that, they are 14x 6 1/2 inch but have an offset of 16 so should fill the arches with the bodykit ok, not sure if I will use the center caps or not as 1 has a bit of damage to the bolt hole
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Local Hero
Bargain!!
Andy
LINCOLNSHIRE REGION - https://www.facebook.com/groups/467122313360002/
1983 MK1 Golf GTI Campaign Model - Under (looooong) resto!
1962 Rover P4 80
2002 BMW 745i
2008 BMW Z4 2.5Si
LINCOLNSHIRE REGION - https://www.facebook.com/groups/467122313360002/
1983 MK1 Golf GTI Campaign Model - Under (looooong) resto!
1962 Rover P4 80
2002 BMW 745i
2008 BMW Z4 2.5Si
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Old Timer
pulled the donor 6a engine from the audi I am breaking, decided to use the 6a over the abf as my conversion manifold will fit better on the shorter block. looks like it has had a head rebuild at some point, suspiciously clean in the head but not the rocker cover
faced off water outlet
there are a few marks on the cams so not sure what cams to use as have abf and kr to choose from, I have heard of using 2 abf exhaust cams so may look into that, cam chain was very tight so assume its been replaced.
i had been trying to figure out the alternator setup as the 6a uses a serp for the alt and v belt for water pump. noticed the 16v 6a alternator is the same mounting as an 8v so looked through my old water pump pulleys and found one with the correct offset to line up with and 8v crank pulley and 8v alt.
the pulley was from a b2 audi 80 8v but has a larger mounting pattern on the water pump so need to get a different water pump for it to fit too, can see the difference compared to a golf 8v pulley.
so 8v alternators do fit a 16v with the right brackets and pulleys
faced off water outlet
there are a few marks on the cams so not sure what cams to use as have abf and kr to choose from, I have heard of using 2 abf exhaust cams so may look into that, cam chain was very tight so assume its been replaced.
i had been trying to figure out the alternator setup as the 6a uses a serp for the alt and v belt for water pump. noticed the 16v 6a alternator is the same mounting as an 8v so looked through my old water pump pulleys and found one with the correct offset to line up with and 8v crank pulley and 8v alt.
the pulley was from a b2 audi 80 8v but has a larger mounting pattern on the water pump so need to get a different water pump for it to fit too, can see the difference compared to a golf 8v pulley.
so 8v alternators do fit a 16v with the right brackets and pulleys
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Old Timer
started to degrease the engine earlier blissfully unaware of what was happening outside the workshop. just about to leave when i noticed this
lots of water justy about to go through the door definately chose the wrong day to wear trainers
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Old Timer
engine stripdown taken a different direction once I took the sump off and found this
not quite sure what it is but its not supposed to be in there. so thought better take closer look and the valves dont look too great either
head came off and think it was burning a bit of oil, strange it didn't really smoke in the audi
also had 1 rusty head bolt so think the gasket was leaking?
I did take the pistons out expecting to find some damage but all the shells were there and looked ok, not taken the crank out yet but it rotates nice and smoothly so don't think the metal is from the crank bearings either.
not sure what to do as have the abf engine it came with that looks fine but wanted to use the shorter 6a block so my manifold will fit. hopefully will be able to get the 6a rebuilt but may fit an abf head as have a spare.
not quite sure what it is but its not supposed to be in there. so thought better take closer look and the valves dont look too great either
head came off and think it was burning a bit of oil, strange it didn't really smoke in the audi
also had 1 rusty head bolt so think the gasket was leaking?
I did take the pistons out expecting to find some damage but all the shells were there and looked ok, not taken the crank out yet but it rotates nice and smoothly so don't think the metal is from the crank bearings either.
not sure what to do as have the abf engine it came with that looks fine but wanted to use the shorter 6a block so my manifold will fit. hopefully will be able to get the 6a rebuilt but may fit an abf head as have a spare.
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