Fitting the inner roof on a Cab
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Fitting the inner roof on a Cab
The inner lining on my roof ain't fitting so well …
This isn't the original roof, but does anyone have any suggestions on how to make it less … baggy?
Possible options are to punch some holes in it and cable-tie it tidily to the frame, or to get some white duct-tape and tape it (tidily again) to the frame upright?
Does the original roof have this problem?
This isn't the original roof, but does anyone have any suggestions on how to make it less … baggy?
Possible options are to punch some holes in it and cable-tie it tidily to the frame, or to get some white duct-tape and tape it (tidily again) to the frame upright?
Does the original roof have this problem?
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look under the parcel shelf supports, see if pulling it a bit tighter down there helps?
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wen pulling the material pull it diagnal instead of straight dwn and also wat may help to get it tighter is heat it up with a hairdryer it makes the material mre supple then pull it
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Local Hero
First of all you need to inspect carefully why it's in the position it is. As pointed out the pulling down over the spikes and glueing with a high temp adhesive. Have a look at things like where it fits to the car body corners, the corner straps as the headliner flaps go round this, also it's glued usually to the rear cable channel lip. Check the corner hanging straps are ok.
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Thanks so much, will do.
Last question … what are corner hanging straps??
Last question … what are corner hanging straps??
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Local Hero
The corner straps go to the corners of the car body.
These give the slope shape at the back of the hood.
The headliner is wrapped around these, have a look and you'll see. Is the headliner secure at the centre rails and the rear rail?
These are stapled in to place there also.
Corner straps you can see the long wide straps in the diagram.
Also showing the corner plates that attatch to the car body.
These give the slope shape at the back of the hood.
The headliner is wrapped around these, have a look and you'll see. Is the headliner secure at the centre rails and the rear rail?
These are stapled in to place there also.
Corner straps you can see the long wide straps in the diagram.
Also showing the corner plates that attatch to the car body.
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Local Hero
The corner straps help keep the quarter panels in place, if the headliner has come unglued it could be a part of the sagging.
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Chortle
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Local Hero
Top corner hanging straps keep the upper corners suspended on the frame.
If you look at the piccy follow the big corner strap to its positio where it's connected to the frame corner.
There is a small length strap between the two frame sections the headliner has a sleeve in the corner which the strap passes through and is then fixed in place with screw and washer..
Sending you a pm to make it easier to explain.
If you look at the piccy follow the big corner strap to its positio where it's connected to the frame corner.
There is a small length strap between the two frame sections the headliner has a sleeve in the corner which the strap passes through and is then fixed in place with screw and washer..
Sending you a pm to make it easier to explain.
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Turns out that the sides of the headliner were held firmly in place, but have stretched. I've re-fitted them at the bottom and they hold their shape much better now.
So tempted to remove the outer roof and get at it properly, but I won't. Almost back on the road now … down to the last few urgent jobs.
Still thinking about taping the liner to the frame upright though … anyone done this before??
So tempted to remove the outer roof and get at it properly, but I won't. Almost back on the road now … down to the last few urgent jobs.
Still thinking about taping the liner to the frame upright though … anyone done this before??
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Local Hero
If your looking at taking the roof off then it's the best time to look at the top pad and Interliner.
These usually deteriorate.
You would need to take these off in any event to get to the headliner anyway.
I wouldn't strap or fix the headliner anywhere than factory.
You run the risk of trapping the material in the frame damaging both.
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Chortle
These usually deteriorate.
You would need to take these off in any event to get to the headliner anyway.
I wouldn't strap or fix the headliner anywhere than factory.
You run the risk of trapping the material in the frame damaging both.
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Chortle
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Yeah, that's a good point. I'm going to leave it. One less thing to do
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A bit off subject, but could anyone tell me if I need to remove the outer roof if I was putting a new inner lining on.
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To replace the whole thing? Yes, definitely.
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My headliner has come away from the front edge of the hood. Can this be fixed without me having to buy a new healiner?
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Local Hero
Yes possibly and no.
The way I install the headliner is to take the tie bar off, fit and glue it then cut it off on the flat of the frame.
Yours looks to be cut short and the glue didn't hold.
You can try to take the tie bar off, then 8 screws and the two corners 10 screws in all IIRC, carefully peel back the vinyl outerskin and pull stretch and try to re-glue it.
I think whoever installed it cut the outer skin even with the bar knicked the headliner as I Always trim the outer from the headliner out and use a piece of tape to keep blade from the headliner.
Give Chortle a shout.
You have to remove the outer skin, Padding and coverlet to hang a new headliner….
The way I install the headliner is to take the tie bar off, fit and glue it then cut it off on the flat of the frame.
Yours looks to be cut short and the glue didn't hold.
You can try to take the tie bar off, then 8 screws and the two corners 10 screws in all IIRC, carefully peel back the vinyl outerskin and pull stretch and try to re-glue it.
I think whoever installed it cut the outer skin even with the bar knicked the headliner as I Always trim the outer from the headliner out and use a piece of tape to keep blade from the headliner.
Give Chortle a shout.
You have to remove the outer skin, Padding and coverlet to hang a new headliner….
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That is exactly what has happened - the headliner has got cut by who ever fitted the new outer skin (prior to me buying the car). I can stretch the headlining about 20mm by hand so I may get enough to get it under the tie bar again. I will need a good glue as I will be relying on it holding until I get the tiebar on again?
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Local Hero
Fitting the inner roof on a Cab
Yep whoever fitted the hood is a doughnut.
The hoods are left long at the front and once fitted and the clamping strip in place are trimmed off.
They’ve sliced through both hood and the headliner.
You’re issue is though if you try and pull the short bit forward you’ll go out of shape.
You can’t pull the whole thing forward as the 2 side pieces are riveted to the sides.
Other option is to undo headliner from the front and place some material behind the 2 cut areas to join them together.
Not likely to be pretty.
Or fit a new one.
Which brings its own issues.
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The hoods are left long at the front and once fitted and the clamping strip in place are trimmed off.
They’ve sliced through both hood and the headliner.
You’re issue is though if you try and pull the short bit forward you’ll go out of shape.
You can’t pull the whole thing forward as the 2 side pieces are riveted to the sides.
Other option is to undo headliner from the front and place some material behind the 2 cut areas to join them together.
Not likely to be pretty.
Or fit a new one.
Which brings its own issues.
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Local Hero
chortle said
Yep whoever fitted the hood is a doughnut.
You are being too kind to the fitter….. ID10T is more apt, or unable to follow Directions from you or I on the install guides….. which leads to RTFMsquared.
Drilling out the rivets to remove the strain may help with the re-alignment, and you would have to sew the material together along with a good glue and tape tape…. your right it may not look pretty… Which leads me back to my Original thought of using Snaps on the headliners to install it I figure with my last 3 layer install on my Blue Cabbie, that I will be DEAD long before I have to renew the top or the headliner.
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I bought the car like this. The last guy fitted a new outer to the roof and I think with a bit of work I can tidy it.
Regarding the headliner, I have an idea of fleeing my wrinkled front edge and then fitting a 15 strip of plastic and then screwing this with short self tappers. The new plastic strip would need to be back far enough so as not to interfere with the windscreen frame when closed.
Would something like this work?
Regarding the headliner, I have an idea of fleeing my wrinkled front edge and then fitting a 15 strip of plastic and then screwing this with short self tappers. The new plastic strip would need to be back far enough so as not to interfere with the windscreen frame when closed.
Would something like this work?
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