Help ! Outer CV boot rempacement
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Help ! Outer CV boot rempacement
Hi,
I've got a problem, I'm afraid, I can't seem to remove the outer CV joint to replace the boot. The Haynes manual says there are older models with a circlip, and later models which nees 'a sharptap' with a wooden mallet to remove. I can't see a circlip, so I'm guessing it's the later model ('79 diesel). I also can't remove the driveshaft for lack of a 12 sided bit in my socket set. I'll buy a 12-sided bit on Monday and remove the shaft (on my cabriolet there are hex screws on the driveshafts) and replace the screws with hex screws, but I still need to remove one of the CV joints to change the boot.
Here's the kit I've got:
And here's how far I've got:
Do I simply bang it with a hammer to remove it? Where shouls I hit it, and how hard?
Any ideas gratefully accepted, as usual.
Robin
I've got a problem, I'm afraid, I can't seem to remove the outer CV joint to replace the boot. The Haynes manual says there are older models with a circlip, and later models which nees 'a sharptap' with a wooden mallet to remove. I can't see a circlip, so I'm guessing it's the later model ('79 diesel). I also can't remove the driveshaft for lack of a 12 sided bit in my socket set. I'll buy a 12-sided bit on Monday and remove the shaft (on my cabriolet there are hex screws on the driveshafts) and replace the screws with hex screws, but I still need to remove one of the CV joints to change the boot.
Here's the kit I've got:
And here's how far I've got:
Do I simply bang it with a hammer to remove it? Where shouls I hit it, and how hard?
Any ideas gratefully accepted, as usual.
Robin
VW Golf 1500D 5-door 1978 - was daily (wet)
VW Golf 1800 cabriolet 1980 - daily (dry)
Bedford CF Trailblazer 1978 - camper
Bedford CF 350 Flatbed 1976 - fun/work
Mercedes W108 280s 1970 - dusty and forgotten
Mercedes S123 200T 1983 - to be renovated
Mercedes C124 1989 - Winter Beater
BMW E21 1976/82 - dusty but not forgotten
Twingo 2004 (not my fault, somebody gave it to me!)
VW Golf 1800 cabriolet 1980 - daily (dry)
Bedford CF Trailblazer 1978 - camper
Bedford CF 350 Flatbed 1976 - fun/work
Mercedes W108 280s 1970 - dusty and forgotten
Mercedes S123 200T 1983 - to be renovated
Mercedes C124 1989 - Winter Beater
BMW E21 1976/82 - dusty but not forgotten
Twingo 2004 (not my fault, somebody gave it to me!)
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Don't knock it off mate just get a stretch fit boot!!!
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Local Hero
All the ones I've done have had bi-hex (12 point) bolts holding inner to gearbox, someone must have already been at your Cabriolet? They do round off quite easily if you are not careful and use the proper tool.
The outer joint does simply knock off, its held on by the black U-shaped clip in your photo next to the copper coloured circlips. The clip is on the shaft 'inside' the CV joint. A sharp blow has the joint compress the clip and drop off the shaft. Its not that strong as when on the car the joints can't go anywhere beening trapped between the gearbox and the hub.
The outer joint does simply knock off, its held on by the black U-shaped clip in your photo next to the copper coloured circlips. The clip is on the shaft 'inside' the CV joint. A sharp blow has the joint compress the clip and drop off the shaft. Its not that strong as when on the car the joints can't go anywhere beening trapped between the gearbox and the hub.
1983 Mars Red 1.8 Golf GTI
1987 Alpine White 1.8 Clipper Cabriolet
The trouble with doing nothing is that you never know when you are finished.
1987 Alpine White 1.8 Clipper Cabriolet
The trouble with doing nothing is that you never know when you are finished.
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Local Hero
All the ones I've done have had bi-hex (12 point) bolts holding inner to gearbox, someone must have already been at your Cabriolet? They do round off quite easily if you are not careful and use the proper tool.
The outer joint does simply knock off, its held on by the black U-shaped clip in your photo next to the copper coloured circlips. The clip is on the shaft 'inside' the CV joint. A sharp blow has the joint compress the clip and drop off the shaft. Its not that strong as when on the car the joints can't go anywhere beening trapped between the gearbox and the hub.
The outer joint does simply knock off, its held on by the black U-shaped clip in your photo next to the copper coloured circlips. The clip is on the shaft 'inside' the CV joint. A sharp blow has the joint compress the clip and drop off the shaft. Its not that strong as when on the car the joints can't go anywhere beening trapped between the gearbox and the hub.
1983 Mars Red 1.8 Golf GTI
1987 Alpine White 1.8 Clipper Cabriolet
The trouble with doing nothing is that you never know when you are finished.
1987 Alpine White 1.8 Clipper Cabriolet
The trouble with doing nothing is that you never know when you are finished.
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Thanks for the prompt replies. So I can hit it with a big hammer, then?
Robin
Robin
VW Golf 1500D 5-door 1978 - was daily (wet)
VW Golf 1800 cabriolet 1980 - daily (dry)
Bedford CF Trailblazer 1978 - camper
Bedford CF 350 Flatbed 1976 - fun/work
Mercedes W108 280s 1970 - dusty and forgotten
Mercedes S123 200T 1983 - to be renovated
Mercedes C124 1989 - Winter Beater
BMW E21 1976/82 - dusty but not forgotten
Twingo 2004 (not my fault, somebody gave it to me!)
VW Golf 1800 cabriolet 1980 - daily (dry)
Bedford CF Trailblazer 1978 - camper
Bedford CF 350 Flatbed 1976 - fun/work
Mercedes W108 280s 1970 - dusty and forgotten
Mercedes S123 200T 1983 - to be renovated
Mercedes C124 1989 - Winter Beater
BMW E21 1976/82 - dusty but not forgotten
Twingo 2004 (not my fault, somebody gave it to me!)
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Local Hero
Yes but I'd use a piece of wood inbetween. Whilst drive shaft is off I'd also clean out and repack the inner with fresh CV grease.
1983 Mars Red 1.8 Golf GTI
1987 Alpine White 1.8 Clipper Cabriolet
The trouble with doing nothing is that you never know when you are finished.
1987 Alpine White 1.8 Clipper Cabriolet
The trouble with doing nothing is that you never know when you are finished.
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All sorted - it was the older sort with a circlip, whice explains why I couldn't get the CV joint off:
You can see the circlip in a recess in the photo. It was easier to remove the whole driveshaft (after buying the correct tool) and remove the CV joint onthe bench.
I reassembled with new bolts with a hex fitting, to make it easier to remove next time.
Thanks for the help,
Robin
You can see the circlip in a recess in the photo. It was easier to remove the whole driveshaft (after buying the correct tool) and remove the CV joint onthe bench.
I reassembled with new bolts with a hex fitting, to make it easier to remove next time.
Thanks for the help,
Robin
VW Golf 1500D 5-door 1978 - was daily (wet)
VW Golf 1800 cabriolet 1980 - daily (dry)
Bedford CF Trailblazer 1978 - camper
Bedford CF 350 Flatbed 1976 - fun/work
Mercedes W108 280s 1970 - dusty and forgotten
Mercedes S123 200T 1983 - to be renovated
Mercedes C124 1989 - Winter Beater
BMW E21 1976/82 - dusty but not forgotten
Twingo 2004 (not my fault, somebody gave it to me!)
VW Golf 1800 cabriolet 1980 - daily (dry)
Bedford CF Trailblazer 1978 - camper
Bedford CF 350 Flatbed 1976 - fun/work
Mercedes W108 280s 1970 - dusty and forgotten
Mercedes S123 200T 1983 - to be renovated
Mercedes C124 1989 - Winter Beater
BMW E21 1976/82 - dusty but not forgotten
Twingo 2004 (not my fault, somebody gave it to me!)
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nice one,
just the info I need.
cheers
just the info I need.
cheers
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Trying to get the outer CV off of my 81 Westmoreland Rabbit. No circlip to remove and it does not want to come off by trying to drive it off with a hammer and wood. Manufacturer of the CV is EMPI so I doubt it is the original. Any ideas? May have to just hit it harder?
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Local Hero
Clean as much grease out as possible and check for the Circlip, there's a little cut out in the cv joint as seen in the picture above, if your are sure there is no Circlip then you need to hit it harder to remove the cv joint. Hold it so its in line with with the shaft (as if it's straight on the car) and give it a good hit on the edge of the cv joint so not to damage it, a rubber mallet is best for the job.
it does make the job easier if you can remove the shaft from the car but it is possible with it still attached but there isn't much room to work.
it does make the job easier if you can remove the shaft from the car but it is possible with it still attached but there isn't much room to work.
1988 Mk1 Golf GTi Cabriolet 1.8cc DX, K-jet. Daily drive. 317,000 miles and counting
1978 Mk1 Scirocco GLS 1.6cc FR, Webber carb. Weekend toy.
1978 Mk1 Scirocco GLS 1.6cc FR, Webber carb. Weekend toy.
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Help ! Outer CV boot rempacement
I have both driveshafts out and cleaned up. No circlip. I also have the inner CVs off. What if I just pack the outer CVs with grease and not remove them? Cleaned them with solvent and blew them out with compressed air. I can easily slide the outer CV boot from the inner side of the driveshaft since the inner CVs are off. Thoughts?
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Local Hero
Yes you can do that to change the boot as the inners are off, just hope the outer ones are OK as you will have to remove them to change them.
1988 Mk1 Golf GTi Cabriolet 1.8cc DX, K-jet. Daily drive. 317,000 miles and counting
1978 Mk1 Scirocco GLS 1.6cc FR, Webber carb. Weekend toy.
1978 Mk1 Scirocco GLS 1.6cc FR, Webber carb. Weekend toy.
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I am mainly concerned with msking sure they are really vlean before repacking. For the life of me, I can't get the outer CVs off.
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Local Hero
If you really want to remove the CV joint hold the drive shaft in a vice attached to a bench or similar and then grab hold of the end of the cv joint and hold it inline with the drive shaft and hit it HARD on the edge, best to use a rubber mallet.
1988 Mk1 Golf GTi Cabriolet 1.8cc DX, K-jet. Daily drive. 317,000 miles and counting
1978 Mk1 Scirocco GLS 1.6cc FR, Webber carb. Weekend toy.
1978 Mk1 Scirocco GLS 1.6cc FR, Webber carb. Weekend toy.
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Tried that. No luck.
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Help ! Outer CV boot rempacement
Never did get the outers off. Cleaned them with solvent real good and then blew them out with compressed air. Seemed to work fine. Looks like I have two types of inners. One has the concave washer and the other has a large circlip that the CV rests on. When assembled they both have the same space left for the outer clip. Attached some pics. Does this look correct? Only type in the manual was the one with the concave washer.
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Old Timer
at 3:00 you can see how he taps the outer side off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWodwx7VWFI
My Haynes manual says that the models till mid 80 have the circlip and from mid 80 onward you have to tap them of (like this guys does)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWodwx7VWFI
My Haynes manual says that the models till mid 80 have the circlip and from mid 80 onward you have to tap them of (like this guys does)
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I watched that video at least 20 times and was amazed how easy it worked for him. Not the case for me. I finally gave up, left them on, cleaned them and repacked. On a side note the guy in the video was an interesting character. At least here in San Diego he would be.
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Local Hero
That's all I have to do with mine, hold it straight, hit it and it slides off.
1988 Mk1 Golf GTi Cabriolet 1.8cc DX, K-jet. Daily drive. 317,000 miles and counting
1978 Mk1 Scirocco GLS 1.6cc FR, Webber carb. Weekend toy.
1978 Mk1 Scirocco GLS 1.6cc FR, Webber carb. Weekend toy.
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Local Hero
same here
1983 Mars Red 1.8 Golf GTI
1987 Alpine White 1.8 Clipper Cabriolet
The trouble with doing nothing is that you never know when you are finished.
1987 Alpine White 1.8 Clipper Cabriolet
The trouble with doing nothing is that you never know when you are finished.
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