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alonzo said

I have owned a few Oettinger Mk2 Golfs including the black G plate in the above picture. I sold it about seven or eight years ago to a very nice guy from just outside Manchester who I think was a joiner. I saw him with the car a few years back at VW Northwest in Tatton Park. That was a very nice mk2 but the engine is only a 1.8 (1800E) that has has been mildly tuned by Oettinger. It was still a very quick car and very tight too. This was one of the straightest Mk2 I've owned and it was a real pleasure to drive. I gave the owner a letter from Oettinger confirming the engine and I also gave him an original copy of a Oettiger brochure that showed the power and cost of each conversion. The 2000E was the most powerful approved VW 16v 2ltr engine conversion and it was based on a KR engine. The later models like yours did not have the fancy inlet manifold but the original manifold was modified internally. There is a Oettinger owners club website but it's very quiet and can take months to get a reply but they are very knowledgeable. I should have some pictures of the black G plate one on an old computer at home including ones taken before I purchased it. I have a copy of the Oettinger brochure from 1989 somewhere too. Hope this info helps.

 

There is a owners club?? I've looked everywhere and haven't heard anything about a club?? Also that's some good info, finding any info other then what I have with the car has been hard work. Even Oettinger weren't very helpful when they eventually replied which took a month

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alonzo said

I owned this one too and sold it to Karl as I just wanted to concentrate on my Mk1's after becoming a father to two boys. This was a 2000E with a huge list of optional extras including a beautiful black leather recaro interior. This was a car that Scott had on display at the 1989 motorshow.

Sorry which one are you referring to? This is getting slightly confusing lol

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I previously owned the Black G plate 1800E and the Blue F plate 2000E with the unusual four lamp grill. I have never owned the Blue 2000E that is in the first posts. Am just trying to get an old computer up and rinning to look for pictures of them when I owned them and also the literature that I scanned for future reference. 

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alonzo said

I previously owned the Black G plate 1800E and the Blue F plate 2000E with the unusual four lamp grill. I have never owned the Blue 2000E that is in the first posts. Am just trying to get an old computer up and rinning to look for pictures of them when I owned them and also the literature that I scanned for future reference. 

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I think I'd be here a while if you wanted me to write down the one's I've owned. Drew, Rajan (Dubboy), Warren (Gammygolf) or Rich (Crazyquiff) will all verify that I have owned quite a few in the last 31yrs. Have always had a passion for mk1 golfs but just occasionally had a few desirable Mk2 Golfs (BR Motorsport, GTI Engineering and Oettiger) Just hoping my now getting old knowledge can help out other members.

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alonzo said

I previously owned the Black G plate 1800E and the Blue F plate 2000E with the unusual four lamp grill. I have never owned the Blue 2000E that is in the first posts. Am just trying to get an old computer up and rinning to look for pictures of them when I owned them and also the literature that I scanned for future reference. 

Sounds good! I know they only made 25 of mine with a mixture of the 2000e 16v vs and a couple of G60s

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Hi, yes the guy was a joiner (Peter Moores) and is a customer of mine at my garage in Manchester. We recommissioned the car after a long lay up and he was considering selling it. The outcome was i paid him a lump of cash and wrote his bill off. Thank you for the info you supplied it was exactly what i wanted to know about the car as it had been a bit vague as to what Oettinger had done on the engine. I don't wish to sell the car as i am enjoying driving it but out of interest how would you value it as i am not well up Golfs especially Oettingers. Many thanks again for your assistance. Bill.

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It's nice to find out all this info!

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ashburys said

Hi, yes the guy was a joiner (Peter Moores) and is a customer of mine at my garage in Manchester. We recommissioned the car after a long lay up and he was considering selling it. The outcome was i paid him a lump of cash and wrote his bill off. Thank you for the info you supplied it was exactly what i wanted to know about the car as it had been a bit vague as to what Oettinger had done on the engine. I don't wish to sell the car as i am enjoying driving it but out of interest how would you value it as i am not well up Golfs especially Oettingers. Many thanks again for your assistance. Bill.

As a point of reference I have a agreed value for 10k as is but will be getting a new independent valuation once it is all finished at the body shop. Not sure what that will go to when it's finished but will let you know

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Hi!Am I right thinking that the Kr based oettinger engines kept the chain driven cams, as the gear driven ones were from the Oettinger 16v 2000e head?As my car has the chain set up, with what I believe is an unrated inlet cam It's all coming out soon, so the investigations will begin

Yes your correct, The later 2000E engines used the chain driven cams with various profiles. There is an engine in bits on ebay with some good pictures.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OETTINGER-16V-SOUPAPPES-MK1-GOLF-GTI-VW-MOTORSPORT-ENGINE-/222507948284?hash=item33ce81d8fc:g:InEAAOSwGJlZFI42  

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Hi, yes the guy was a joiner (Peter Moores) and is a customer of mine at my garage in Manchester. We recommissioned the car after a long lay up and he was considering selling it. The outcome was i paid him a lump of cash and wrote his bill off. Thank you for the info you supplied it was exactly what i wanted to know about the car as it had been a bit vague as to what Oettinger had done on the engine. I don't wish to sell the car as i am enjoying driving it but out of interest how would you value it as i am not well up Golfs especially Oettingers. Many thanks again for your assistance. Bill.

I'm  glad it's gone to a good home and Peter is ok as he wasn't well last time I saw him. As for the value I'm going to struggle as they seem to be advertised for high prices but at the end of the day they are only worth what people are prepared to pay. I sold it about seven years ago for around £2800 but I'm sure it's worth more than double that now as apart from it having the Oettinger engine it was a very tidy original example of a mk2 in it's own right. I have just found some pictures of when I bought it so will post them when I get more time. I have also found a copy of the Oettinger literature so can forward that on or post it on the forum.

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alonzo said

Hi!Am I right thinking that the Kr based oettinger engines kept the chain driven cams, as the gear driven ones were from the Oettinger 16v 2000e head?As my car has the chain set up, with what I believe is an unrated inlet cam It's all coming out soon, so the investigations will begin

Yes your correct, The later 2000E engines used the chain driven cams with various profiles. There is an engine in bits on ebay with some good pictures.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OETTINGER-16V-SOUPAPPES-MK1-GOLF-GTI-VW-MOTORSPORT-ENGINE-/222507948284?hash=item33ce81d8fc:g:InEAAOSwGJlZFI42  

Will keep a eye on that engine! Very interesting one! I'm fairly certain mine has gear driven cams from what I understand but I could be wrong. I was told they were but until I see it for myself I wouldn't put money on it!

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ashburys said

Hi, yes the guy was a joiner (Peter Moores) and is a customer of mine at my garage in Manchester. We recommissioned the car after a long lay up and he was considering selling it. The outcome was i paid him a lump of cash and wrote his bill off. Thank you for the info you supplied it was exactly what i wanted to know about the car as it had been a bit vague as to what Oettinger had done on the engine. I don't wish to sell the car as i am enjoying driving it but out of interest how would you value it as i am not well up Golfs especially Oettingers. Many thanks again for your assistance. Bill.

I'm  glad it's gone to a good home and Peter is ok as he wasn't well last time I saw him. As for the value I'm going to struggle as they seem to be advertised for high prices but at the end of the day they are only worth what people are prepared to pay. I sold it about seven years ago for around £2800 but I'm sure it's worth more than double that now as apart from it having the Oettinger engine it was a very tidy original example of a mk2 in it's own right. I have just found some pictures of when I bought it so will post them when I get more time. I have also found a copy of the Oettinger literature so can forward that on or post it on the forum.

Post up the Oettinger Literature please! I'd be keen to see more!

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Great find!

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Great find and great thread, looking forward to more updates  :cool:

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alonzo said

ashburys said

Hi, yes the guy was a joiner (Peter Moores) and is a customer of mine at my garage in Manchester. We recommissioned the car after a long lay up and he was considering selling it. The outcome was i paid him a lump of cash and wrote his bill off. Thank you for the info you supplied it was exactly what i wanted to know about the car as it had been a bit vague as to what Oettinger had done on the engine. I don't wish to sell the car as i am enjoying driving it but out of interest how would you value it as i am not well up Golfs especially Oettingers. Many thanks again for your assistance. Bill.

I'm  glad it's gone to a good home and Peter is ok as he wasn't well last time I saw him. As for the value I'm going to struggle as they seem to be advertised for high prices but at the end of the day they are only worth what people are prepared to pay. I sold it about seven years ago for around £2800 but I'm sure it's worth more than double that now as apart from it having the Oettinger engine it was a very tidy original example of a mk2 in it's own right. I have just found some pictures of when I bought it so will post them when I get more time. I have also found a copy of the Oettinger literature so can forward that on or post it on the forum.

Post up the Oettinger Literature please! I'd be keen to see more!

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Little update not that much has happened but it wont be making it to Bristol Volksfest.

I've also had the paperwork come through from the previous owner with some more info on the model. Apparently they did three different engines, it's just nice to get some more info rather then the photos of the paperwork I was given when I bought it and he was moving house





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Nice to have that  :thumbs:

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Another update! Went to view it yesterday and the floor is in and the new sound deadening is in, they had a bit left to do and then got a message today of the car in primer! Super excited!! Next is to paint the inside again along with door shits and inside of the doors, then the shell, doors and then another day spray the bonnet, grill, tailgate, bumpers and bonnet. It's slowly coming together but will totally be worth it in the end!

So first pictures of when I saw it yesterday followed by the pic I was just sent





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