Pistolpete's Mars Red Mk1 GTi restoration
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Restoration thread for my 1983 Y-reg Mars Red GTi, non-sunroof model
I used the 22mm MC and servo from a mk2 16v and it is a good set up giving much better feel.
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Old Timer
Made some good progress over the last week. Got the driveshafts split from the CV joints and sent them for powder coating along with the radiator fan shroud, gear linkage heat shield under the transmission tunnel and the 9" brake servo after carefully masking it all up. As well as that, I've got the front suspension now installed with the hub carriers and tie rods, all new powerflex bushes on the wishbones, and as always new bolts/nuts/washers. For the suspension and braking components, I always use genuine parts where available. Hard to believe that lower shock bolts are now obsolete from VW !!
I then got the brake linkage finally assembled and started routing some of the wiring where it needs to be:-
New blower fan installed as the original was very noisy:-
I then got the brake linkage finally assembled and started routing some of the wiring where it needs to be:-
New blower fan installed as the original was very noisy:-
Nut & Bolt Resto Complete (Mars Red GTi original): https://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/forum/index.php?page=topicview&type=misc&id=projects%2Fyour-mk1-golfs_2%2Fpistolpete-s-mars-red&start__keyed=
Nut & Bolt Resto in Progress (Lhasa 16v): https://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/forum/index.php?page=topicview&type=misc&id=projects%2Fyour-mk1-golfs_2%2Fpistolpete-s-lhasa&redirected=1
Nut & Bolt Resto in Progress (Lhasa 16v): https://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/forum/index.php?page=topicview&type=misc&id=projects%2Fyour-mk1-golfs_2%2Fpistolpete-s-lhasa&redirected=1
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Old Timer
Unfortunately it looks like the 2 braided hoses from the metering head to the WUR have had their day:-
I might order replacements from Mk1 Autohaus in the States along with a few other things to make the most of the inevitable shipping charges. I cannot get a lower bonnet latch new anywhere for example, but they keep them in stock.
I might order replacements from Mk1 Autohaus in the States along with a few other things to make the most of the inevitable shipping charges. I cannot get a lower bonnet latch new anywhere for example, but they keep them in stock.
Nut & Bolt Resto Complete (Mars Red GTi original): https://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/forum/index.php?page=topicview&type=misc&id=projects%2Fyour-mk1-golfs_2%2Fpistolpete-s-mars-red&start__keyed=
Nut & Bolt Resto in Progress (Lhasa 16v): https://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/forum/index.php?page=topicview&type=misc&id=projects%2Fyour-mk1-golfs_2%2Fpistolpete-s-lhasa&redirected=1
Nut & Bolt Resto in Progress (Lhasa 16v): https://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/forum/index.php?page=topicview&type=misc&id=projects%2Fyour-mk1-golfs_2%2Fpistolpete-s-lhasa&redirected=1
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Further progress made, and essentially the front end chassis is complete as far as it can be until the engine is back in (I cannot fit the front ARB until the manifold is in place).
Refurbished and powdercoated 5-cylinder Audi caliper carriers trial fitted and thankfully everything is good for the full Mk2 16v front set-up. It was only when I went to fit the new genuine dust shields that I realised that there was an old sheared bolt left in one of the threads on the hub carrier, so had to take the whole lot off again to drill out and re-tap the thread. Bit of a pain, but only a couple of hours extra work (For the eagle eyed amongst you, the lower shock bolt fitted was just for the trial fit, this has now been replaced with a new lower bolt…it sticks out like a sore thumb) .
So now I have the new dust shields installed, along with refurbed carriers and new Mk2 16v calipers with standard Pagid discs and ATE standard pads (this will be more than enough stopping power).
I used to have 280mm discs fitted with the original Mk1 calipers on spacer brackets, but this set-up looks so much beefier, I can't wait to feel the difference with the big servo and 22mm master cylinder.
Refurbished and powdercoated 5-cylinder Audi caliper carriers trial fitted and thankfully everything is good for the full Mk2 16v front set-up. It was only when I went to fit the new genuine dust shields that I realised that there was an old sheared bolt left in one of the threads on the hub carrier, so had to take the whole lot off again to drill out and re-tap the thread. Bit of a pain, but only a couple of hours extra work (For the eagle eyed amongst you, the lower shock bolt fitted was just for the trial fit, this has now been replaced with a new lower bolt…it sticks out like a sore thumb) .
So now I have the new dust shields installed, along with refurbed carriers and new Mk2 16v calipers with standard Pagid discs and ATE standard pads (this will be more than enough stopping power).
I used to have 280mm discs fitted with the original Mk1 calipers on spacer brackets, but this set-up looks so much beefier, I can't wait to feel the difference with the big servo and 22mm master cylinder.
Last edit: by Pistol
Nut & Bolt Resto Complete (Mars Red GTi original): https://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/forum/index.php?page=topicview&type=misc&id=projects%2Fyour-mk1-golfs_2%2Fpistolpete-s-mars-red&start__keyed=
Nut & Bolt Resto in Progress (Lhasa 16v): https://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/forum/index.php?page=topicview&type=misc&id=projects%2Fyour-mk1-golfs_2%2Fpistolpete-s-lhasa&redirected=1
Nut & Bolt Resto in Progress (Lhasa 16v): https://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/forum/index.php?page=topicview&type=misc&id=projects%2Fyour-mk1-golfs_2%2Fpistolpete-s-lhasa&redirected=1
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Old Timer
Looking good Pete!
As I have the same calipers to fit - can you tell me what pads you fitted? Are they the 16v vw part, or the Audi part (if they are different) - I'm not sure which I need.
Cheers!
Jason
As I have the same calipers to fit - can you tell me what pads you fitted? Are they the 16v vw part, or the Audi part (if they are different) - I'm not sure which I need.
Cheers!
Jason
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Old Timer
Cheers Jason.
I've fitted standard Mk2 16v pads for 256x20mm vented discs. Part number is 1HM698151A.
I've fitted standard Mk2 16v pads for 256x20mm vented discs. Part number is 1HM698151A.
Nut & Bolt Resto Complete (Mars Red GTi original): https://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/forum/index.php?page=topicview&type=misc&id=projects%2Fyour-mk1-golfs_2%2Fpistolpete-s-mars-red&start__keyed=
Nut & Bolt Resto in Progress (Lhasa 16v): https://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/forum/index.php?page=topicview&type=misc&id=projects%2Fyour-mk1-golfs_2%2Fpistolpete-s-lhasa&redirected=1
Nut & Bolt Resto in Progress (Lhasa 16v): https://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/forum/index.php?page=topicview&type=misc&id=projects%2Fyour-mk1-golfs_2%2Fpistolpete-s-lhasa&redirected=1
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Old Timer
Thanks Pete!
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Looks lovely under the arches and in the Engine bay.
Are those new arch trims?
Are those new arch trims?
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Local Hero
Have you got braided brake hoses to fit onto those calipers?
1988 Mk1 Golf GTi Cabriolet 1.8cc DX, K-jet. Daily drive. 317,000 miles and counting
1978 Mk1 Scirocco GLS 1.6cc FR, Webber carb. Weekend toy.
1978 Mk1 Scirocco GLS 1.6cc FR, Webber carb. Weekend toy.
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Old Timer
chrisL said
Looks lovely under the arches and in the Engine bay.
Are those new arch trims?
Cheers for the comment.
I bought 3 different sets of arch trims until I was happy with the quality, finally settled on the Eurowagens ones.
Nut & Bolt Resto Complete (Mars Red GTi original): https://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/forum/index.php?page=topicview&type=misc&id=projects%2Fyour-mk1-golfs_2%2Fpistolpete-s-mars-red&start__keyed=
Nut & Bolt Resto in Progress (Lhasa 16v): https://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/forum/index.php?page=topicview&type=misc&id=projects%2Fyour-mk1-golfs_2%2Fpistolpete-s-lhasa&redirected=1
Nut & Bolt Resto in Progress (Lhasa 16v): https://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/forum/index.php?page=topicview&type=misc&id=projects%2Fyour-mk1-golfs_2%2Fpistolpete-s-lhasa&redirected=1
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mark1gls said
Have you got braided brake hoses to fit onto those calipers?
Of course, new Goodridge Phantom stainless hoses and an Automec copper nickle brake line kit which I might have to modify slightly to work as it's a Mk1 GTi kit and of course I'm tying into 4-port 22mm master cylinder so will need t-pieces for the brake light switches.
Nut & Bolt Resto Complete (Mars Red GTi original): https://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/forum/index.php?page=topicview&type=misc&id=projects%2Fyour-mk1-golfs_2%2Fpistolpete-s-mars-red&start__keyed=
Nut & Bolt Resto in Progress (Lhasa 16v): https://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/forum/index.php?page=topicview&type=misc&id=projects%2Fyour-mk1-golfs_2%2Fpistolpete-s-lhasa&redirected=1
Nut & Bolt Resto in Progress (Lhasa 16v): https://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/forum/index.php?page=topicview&type=misc&id=projects%2Fyour-mk1-golfs_2%2Fpistolpete-s-lhasa&redirected=1
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Local Hero
Could you not move the brake light switch to the pedal like VW did with the cabriolet?
Just something to think about…
Just something to think about…
1988 Mk1 Golf GTi Cabriolet 1.8cc DX, K-jet. Daily drive. 317,000 miles and counting
1978 Mk1 Scirocco GLS 1.6cc FR, Webber carb. Weekend toy.
1978 Mk1 Scirocco GLS 1.6cc FR, Webber carb. Weekend toy.
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Pistol said
chrisL said
Looks lovely under the arches and in the Engine bay.
Are those new arch trims?
Cheers for the comment.
I bought 3 different sets of arch trims until I was happy with the quality, finally settled on the Eurowagens ones.
Have you had them a while, checked their website and it just looks like lighting.
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chrisL said
Pistol said
chrisL said
Looks lovely under the arches and in the Engine bay.
Are those new arch trims?
Cheers for the comment.
I bought 3 different sets of arch trims until I was happy with the quality, finally settled on the Eurowagens ones.
Have you had them a while, checked their website and it just looks like lighting.
😀 Quite possibly no longer in business, I've been stockpiling bits for years for this car. Just had a spare head done to stage 2 (more on that later), I checked back and I bought it in 2011!
Nut & Bolt Resto Complete (Mars Red GTi original): https://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/forum/index.php?page=topicview&type=misc&id=projects%2Fyour-mk1-golfs_2%2Fpistolpete-s-mars-red&start__keyed=
Nut & Bolt Resto in Progress (Lhasa 16v): https://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/forum/index.php?page=topicview&type=misc&id=projects%2Fyour-mk1-golfs_2%2Fpistolpete-s-lhasa&redirected=1
Nut & Bolt Resto in Progress (Lhasa 16v): https://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/forum/index.php?page=topicview&type=misc&id=projects%2Fyour-mk1-golfs_2%2Fpistolpete-s-lhasa&redirected=1
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Old Timer
Having been inspired by your work, I spent last night cleaning up my wiring to get it in the right place, and find any broken bits (there are a few).
As you foolishly told me you took loads of pictures before you started, I'm taking your wiring route as correct (better than me anyway). I've marked up your pic as I have a question.
I initially thought the grey wire tube ran through the clips marked in blue, but you have it differently. Again, I'm probably wrong, but if the wire doesn't run through those clips - what does?
The clip marked yellow must have something else running through it, but I can't work out what that is.
Finally (thanks for sticking with me) do you have any pics of where the other main harness runs round the front…?
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Jason
As you foolishly told me you took loads of pictures before you started, I'm taking your wiring route as correct (better than me anyway). I've marked up your pic as I have a question.
I initially thought the grey wire tube ran through the clips marked in blue, but you have it differently. Again, I'm probably wrong, but if the wire doesn't run through those clips - what does?
The clip marked yellow must have something else running through it, but I can't work out what that is.
Finally (thanks for sticking with me) do you have any pics of where the other main harness runs round the front…?
Thanks
Jason
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Old Timer
Hey Jason, I have indeed got quite a few pics showing where everything went. My grey wiring tube was definitely running above the brake linkage through the yellow clip and then round and through the clip on top of the linkage on the drivers side.
On mine, the brake pipe to the drivers side front was running through the blue clips.
Unfortunately I'm away with work for a while now so I don't have access to my photos to post for you. I'm sure someone on here has pics they could provide.
On mine, the brake pipe to the drivers side front was running through the blue clips.
Unfortunately I'm away with work for a while now so I don't have access to my photos to post for you. I'm sure someone on here has pics they could provide.
Nut & Bolt Resto Complete (Mars Red GTi original): https://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/forum/index.php?page=topicview&type=misc&id=projects%2Fyour-mk1-golfs_2%2Fpistolpete-s-mars-red&start__keyed=
Nut & Bolt Resto in Progress (Lhasa 16v): https://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/forum/index.php?page=topicview&type=misc&id=projects%2Fyour-mk1-golfs_2%2Fpistolpete-s-lhasa&redirected=1
Nut & Bolt Resto in Progress (Lhasa 16v): https://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/forum/index.php?page=topicview&type=misc&id=projects%2Fyour-mk1-golfs_2%2Fpistolpete-s-lhasa&redirected=1
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The rigid brake pipe from the servo to the drivers side runs in the blue clips.
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Old Timer
No worries Pete, I'm in no rush, but I'll pose the question as a new thread.
Glad I checked though - it could have been awkward, although brakes lines are next on the list so it wouldn't have been too bad!
Jason
Glad I checked though - it could have been awkward, although brakes lines are next on the list so it wouldn't have been too bad!
Jason
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Old Timer
So I'm after some advice about how to run the brake lines in. I've got the 9" servo refurbed and trial fitted with the new 22mm master cylinder.
My previous set-up also used a 4-port master cylinder, although it wasn't 22mm. Instead of fitting tee-pieces for the brake light switches, the 2 left hand ports had the break light switches fitted, and then 2 brake lines were run from the right hand ports into a distribution block as per below, before being diverted off to each of the 4 corners.
This is actually quite a tidy way of doing it as the block bolts nicely to the side of the servo bracket as per pic above. Anybody seen this set-up before and should I re-use it or just use tee-pieces for the brake light switches and come straight off the 4 master cylinder ports?
My previous set-up also used a 4-port master cylinder, although it wasn't 22mm. Instead of fitting tee-pieces for the brake light switches, the 2 left hand ports had the break light switches fitted, and then 2 brake lines were run from the right hand ports into a distribution block as per below, before being diverted off to each of the 4 corners.
This is actually quite a tidy way of doing it as the block bolts nicely to the side of the servo bracket as per pic above. Anybody seen this set-up before and should I re-use it or just use tee-pieces for the brake light switches and come straight off the 4 master cylinder ports?
Nut & Bolt Resto Complete (Mars Red GTi original): https://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/forum/index.php?page=topicview&type=misc&id=projects%2Fyour-mk1-golfs_2%2Fpistolpete-s-mars-red&start__keyed=
Nut & Bolt Resto in Progress (Lhasa 16v): https://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/forum/index.php?page=topicview&type=misc&id=projects%2Fyour-mk1-golfs_2%2Fpistolpete-s-lhasa&redirected=1
Nut & Bolt Resto in Progress (Lhasa 16v): https://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/forum/index.php?page=topicview&type=misc&id=projects%2Fyour-mk1-golfs_2%2Fpistolpete-s-lhasa&redirected=1
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Old Timer
I've not plumbed mine in yet, and I've got a similar set-up (at some point I'll post some pics…).
Anyway - I'm going to come straight out the MC, and ditch the brake light switches in favour of a switch on the brake pedal - I just think it will look tidier. Plus I have no idea where that distribution block ended up when I pulled everything out, I've also managed to loose the in-line pressure valves that are at the start of the rear run!
Don't forget the brake distribution should be diagonally split. i.e front port goes to rear left/front right etc.
Anyway - I'm going to come straight out the MC, and ditch the brake light switches in favour of a switch on the brake pedal - I just think it will look tidier. Plus I have no idea where that distribution block ended up when I pulled everything out, I've also managed to loose the in-line pressure valves that are at the start of the rear run!
Don't forget the brake distribution should be diagonally split. i.e front port goes to rear left/front right etc.
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