WANTED: Metal Water Pipe from KR 16V Engine

As per the title guys, looking for the black metal water pipe that goes from the water pump up to the heater matrix on a 16v engine - Must be 90' Spec engine to suit my Samco Hoses!!

Unfortunately this part is no longer available from VW dealers, VW classics or VW Heritage!!  

vw heritage may be producing them soon, alrternativley mk3 golf ones are similar i used an early 2.0 8v one. you'll need a few rubber hoses off the donor

also there are 2 types im not sure which one they will be doing. the early one is perfect for a mk1 as it has the heater matrix bypass hose on it, but you also need the early metal sife flange and the hose.

on mine I used a mk3 automatic T piece and various rubber to replicate it

actually thats probably an early 16v metal pipe. The 8v pipe must have been on there when it was in my mk2 sorry!

if you used 2x T pieces you could do similar but loop it to the end of the metal hose on the matrix return pipe if that makes sense

rubjonny said

vw heritage may be producing them soon, alrternativley mk3 golf ones are similar i used an early 2.0 8v one. you'll need a few rubber hoses off the donor

I'd hang on if I knew they'd be available from VW Heritage in the not too distant future, but I already tried two of their 8V pipes that I had hoped would work but they dont!!
Like you said I could "make them work" but I just bought a brand new set of 16V Samco hoses so I want to use them if possible instead of using a mix of them and standard hoses, so I my first preference would be to find the right metal pipe to suit them and keep it all factory looking!!  

rubjonny said

also there are 2 types im not sure which one they will be doing. the early one is perfect for a mk1 as it has the heater matrix bypass hose on it, but you also need the early metal sife flange and the hose.

on mine I used a mk3 automatic T piece and various rubber to replicate it

Is there any benefit in bypassing the heater matrix??
BTW your pix dont seem to show up here for me!!    

Ok do you know if they are designed for an early or late 16v? the difference is down to the heater matrix bypass hose I mention, it loops from the side flange to an extra outlet on the metal pipe.

The reason for it is that on aMK1 chassis the heater when off is closed off completly with a valve, which prevents coolant passing thru it. since the inlet for it comes from the side of the engien this would also stop coolant circulating as well thru the head, so VW insert a bypass pipe into the system so it can still flow.  The early KR all have this as it was designed to drop into a scirocco, and VW couldnt be bothered to delete it when it went into the mk2 golf which doesnt need it

later KR delete this bypass and so the metal pipe is missing the extra outlet for it as is the side flange.

If you're at work it may be your proxies are stopping the redirect from my web host to the google images site, its nothing exciting just shows how I ran my matrix bypass via a T piece on the hose to the matrix valve to the metal pipe rather than from the side flange as I didnt have an early one

Rubjonny you goiing malvern

http://www.vwgolfmk2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=39883&p=284751#p284751

garyc  Anna was on the Corrado forum the other day looking for someone to try out their new water pipe for the 16v - I think for the KR, not 9a engine.

Give Anna at Heritage a call - if they've not found anyone yet you'll get it for free so you can test it out for them  

scotty I'm not sure if I can make it, we'll see! The Boy is still a bit young to cart around car shows all day

Cheers Guys, I've contacted Anna so I'll see how it pans out!!  

have you got a part number .
 i ve got a few different metal water pipes for a kr engine

027121065K is the early type with the extra outlet, it should look like this:
http://www.ecstuning.com/ES261807/