NEW ENGINE...
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NEW ENGINE...
2.0 16v 9a from a corrado…
gonna be ditching injection tho and using my 45's
where do i start?
haha!!
93' cab in need of a miracle
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Local Hero
Start by removing the existing engine and giving the engine bay a damn good clean, ideally degreasing, then attending to any rust and then stonechip/respray it. Nothing like an engine conversion in a mucky engine bay.
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firstly i would work out weather running carbs is going to be as good as the injection system ie fuel costs, setting up costs ect
i personaly would do as paul did and run it on k-jet :mrgreen:
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no i dont think so.
so what if i posted it in the wrong section.
general chat is neither the right or wrong section is it really as its a general topic.
and as to' where do i start ' i ment the Wiring. maybe im not as good as you .
93' cab in need of a miracle
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Local Hero
Wiring - throw it all in the bin. Seriously.
Now you need to decide if you want to run it on carbs or try to obtain maximum power. By all means if you want carbs, great. But K-Jet FI is going to be easier to sort out and potentially give you more power. But its up to you really.
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Bog brothers manifold, r1 carbs, drill the jets to 1.8mm bobs your aunty!!
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well thing is ive heard so much from different people..
refering to the K-jet . e.i its good, gives ur more power blah blah
then others saying its crap and might as well ditch it..
i was hoping to go down the carb route as when my golfs done its not going to be my daily drive no more and i want to try and get the bay as clutlerlless as possible.. and i payed like 900 for my carb set up brand new so seems a waste to not get use.
i knwo this probs aint people personally liking's etc but hey its each to there own right.
im not very knoledgable about the wiring if im honest as i hear you take abotu 5/6 wires from the 16v loom? to run the spark ?
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all noise no gain.
my mates running his 16v on gsxr carbs that bog bros made a custom manifold for and set up.
but again i got advised not to by a fair few people on here a while ago when i was doing my carb conversion not to do bike carbs as they dont give u power gains and its a waste of money…?
hence why i spent the cash and got weber 45's which i noticed a big gain right away!
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i have quite a few pics from shows etc for inspiration and guides..
and yeh no more heat soak from the manifold!
if i must admit im a bit of a sucker for 16v's on carbs as i love the look and the old skool ways
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webbers are a 50 year old design, that only work well when your flat out!
tho as you have them use them,
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i just prefer webers to bike carbs as im sure most others do too.
they look better too in my eyes.
93' cab in need of a miracle
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Its your motor at the end of the day, and you will do it how you want.
Im only making a suggestion, as you were talking about fuel economy, and webbers are not the best for the jungle juice.
Keep us posted on the build
And remember not everone is out to get you
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Local Hero
heres why my car a 20vt is 200bhp. paul_c has a 16v on k-jet thats been tuned and its as quick as my car
so for me k-jet is the way to do if its tuned correctly :wink:
maybe worth doing some costings based on what you want and the performance you want
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the thing is i have the full injection system and wiring..
and my 900 quid carb set up.
if i run it injection im stuck with carbs which are still pretty much brand new and i wont be able to sell them for that much..
and the injection system i think personally just clutters the bay TOO much and im not really too technically minded as to wiring the whole lot up.
im not really fussed about having a super fast golf on injection that will keep up with turbo's as i know it will still be pretty damn fast on the twin 45's on the 2.0 when ive done.
and like i said before its not gonna be a daily car as this is my project now so should be pretty sweet when its done.
i will start a build thread soon so you can all see
peace
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their is a purple corsa 2.0lt 16v running webber 45's and guess wat thats the fastest front wheel drive car in this country so plz none of this rubbish about webbers.
i no alot of ppl on hear dont agree with not keepin the mk1 golf lookin standard but hey its not your car so let people do wat they want without any agro.
nath your guna have one beast their when its done mateany chance of postin a few more piks plz would love to see some progress as this sounds like an ausome build.
gaz
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gaz_mk1 said
hey look guys if webber carbs are good enough for rally cars they are good enough to put on a mk1 golf.
their is a purple corsa 2.0lt 16v running webber 45's and guess wat thats the fastest front wheel drive car in this country so plz none of this bullshit about webbers.
i no alot of ppl on hear dont agree with not keepin the mk1 golf lookin standard but hey its not your car so let people do wat they want without any agro.
nath your guna have one beast their when its done mateany chance of postin a few more piks plz would love to see some progress as this sounds like an ausome build.
gaz
not trying to kick up a fuss here mate, but a 2 litre red top turbo wouldn't be running on 45s, and if it was, it certainly wouldn't be the fastest FWD car in the country - carbs leak boost… and i'd hate to work out the fueling on a turbod engine with 45s - you'd end up either melting a piston or running really rich.
and if it is a N/A red top on 45s i still can't see it being the fastest FWD car in the country.
it may be running on ITBs with a turbo, which is possible with a custom inlet manifold to house them, but they're totally different to carbs (fuel injection)
nath - looking forward to seeing this progress regardless of whether you go for carbs or stick with fuel injection. in the long run injection will be far better tuning wise than carbs (and a lot cheaper) look at paul_c's black gti for example - 14 second 1/4 mile with a fuel injected 1.8 16v, all down to tweaks with the fuelling.
but i am a sucker for a 16v on carbs, can't beat the sound or the look. if you're going for reliable, cheap tuning and econmical to run - stick with injection. if you want the noise, looks, aren't too bothered about upping the performance (cheaply) and aren't bothered about fuel economy go for carbs.
good luck whichever you choose
john
1983 Polo CL - daily
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1984 Golf G60 Syncro - sold
1989 Rallye Golf - sold
1992 Corrado G60 - crushed
1989 Polo C - chopped and crushed
1991 309 Style - crushed
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mk1john said
gaz_mk1 said
hey look guys if webber carbs are good enough for rally cars they are good enough to put on a mk1 golf.
their is a purple corsa 2.0lt 16v running webber 45's and guess wat thats the fastest front wheel drive car in this country so plz none of this bullshit about webbers.
i no alot of ppl on hear dont agree with not keepin the mk1 golf lookin standard but hey its not your car so let people do wat they want without any agro.
nath your guna have one beast their when its done mateany chance of postin a few more piks plz would love to see some progress as this sounds like an ausome build.
gaz
not trying to kick up a fuss here mate, but a 2 litre red top turbo wouldn't be running on 45s, and if it was, it certainly wouldn't be the fastest FWD car in the country - carbs leak boost… and i'd hate to work out the fueling on a turbod engine with 45s - you'd end up either melting a piston or running really rich.
and if it is a N/A red top on 45s i still can't see it being the fastest FWD car in the country.
it may be running on ITBs with a turbo, which is possible with a custom inlet manifold to house them, but they're totally different to carbs (fuel injection)
nath - looking forward to seeing this progress regardless of whether you go for carbs or stick with fuel injection. in the long run injection will be far better tuning wise than carbs (and a lot cheaper) look at paul_c's black gti for example - 14 second 1/4 mile with a fuel injected 1.8 16v, all down to tweaks with the fuelling.
but i am a sucker for a 16v on carbs, can't beat the sound or the look. if you're going for reliable, cheap tuning and econmical to run - stick with injection. if you want the noise, looks, aren't too bothered about upping the performance (cheaply) and aren't bothered about fuel economy go for carbs.
good luck whichever you choose
john
He dint say turbo John lol. Just a 2ltr 16v redtop
Mk1nath…..keep the 45's I think they rule, look nice and sound nice. Who wants to go mega fast in a cabby anyway you'll mess ya hair up
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not trying to cause a fuss just adding my personal experiences from talking to people 'in the know'
webbers have the old school looks and look good and interesting when you open the bonnet but if you want strip/track type power and if thats what you would use it for id go with injection so it depends which way you want to go with looks and useage
either way a 16v in there is better than standard!! ill be watching as im planning an engine conversion/alteration on my cabby somewhen
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