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A few questions to help me get started

I know i've only had the car for 20hours, but i have a few questions to ask!

1. The intermittent wiper (first position) dosent work, and the other two constant speeds are the same - ie there's not fast wipe. Any ideas?

2. The fuel cap is rusty and it looks like the down pipe is a bit too. i know this is a typical problem. The car runs fine which suggests that bits of rust are not getting into the carb, but the cap is a pig to put on. Its very fiddly. Should i just get a new cap?

3. How can i tell if the fuel down pipe needs to be changed? Is it just a look under the arch?

4. I have a haynes manual, and it hardly mentions the heat deflector. I was told here that it needs to be attached to the manifold with the hose leading upto the airbox. Does anyone have a pic showing exactly this? I'm struggling to find it.

5. Is it possible to fit a gti clock to my 1.1E ? I'd love to have a working rev counter, and the computer would be cool too, although i guess you need the sticks with buttons. Where would the rev counter wire connect to in the engine?

6. Theres what looks like a single central speaker in the lower dash area. Is this right? if so whach size is it 6x4?

7. Is 15W50 the right stuff for the lump?

Many many thanks,
Greg
 :D

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OK. I'll go thu them 1 by 1 to the best of my ability.

Wiper sticks in golfs are strange. The 'OFF' position is actually the first one up, the stick looks like it's pointing slightly upwards, but it is infact off. From this position you go down once for intermitant.  You up for the two constant speeds, but they arn't a lot different on any golf I've ever seen.  You might make it better by lubricating up the mechanism, but I've always found the wipers on golfs to be slow even on top speed.  If the intermittant doesn't work (stick fully down) then check the relay, it might not be there or might not work.

With the fuel pipe, I'd play safe and change the fuel filler neck (slightly hippocritical here, as I havn't done mine yet!) but the last thing you want is little flakes of rust getting into the fuel system!  In the short term you could change the filler cap, might make it a bit easier to get off and on I suppose.  

GTI clocks in a 1.1 can be done easily, they'll go straight in, but on a carb engine I doubt you'll ever get an MFA computer to work properly if you brought a set of clocks with that on.  The RPM counter is easy, the wiring might already be there, but if not its normally a case of connecting the signal lead for the RPM counter to the the coil.

The speaker will be 6x4

I'll leave someone else to answer the oil question!

Phew. Worn out after that  :D  :D

1983 White cabriolet GTi

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great, thanks for the info maniac. Getting started tonite!

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My pennies worth for you Greg:
As Maniac says - defo change the filler neck. I thougth mine looked ok, but once out of the car find it had a hole in it, which couldn't be seen whilst on the car - avoid the pain of a car bunny hopping down the road and more expense later by changing it now if it look ssuspect.

Wiper mechanism. Yep, they do seem slow and not much different betweeb slow and fast. But if you take the mechanism out formt he car completely and give it a good strip dwon and lubrication, you'll find a signficant difference between the two speeds. Did it to mine once when the wipers were painfully slow and couldn;t believe the difference it made. Oil wise, sorry haven;t a glue !! :lol:

Turbo Technics MK1 Golf GTI's - where are you ?

http://www.VWTurbo.co.uk

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My Golf C appears to have no intermediate wiper poistion, just stationary, slow and not so slow. Thought this was due to it being a poverty spec model?

I think 15w/40 oil was recommended by VW for all Mk1 engines. I use this in both my GTI and C.

Cheers

1981 1600 GTI (coming to a road near you soon…)

1983 1100 C

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The Golf C must be the only model that didn't have the intermittant wipe, I used to have a 5door CL model, which was only one trim level above the C and that had intermittant wipe on it.

You learn something every day.

1983 White cabriolet GTi

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Yes - my mates CL has intermitent wipers. Also there is no similtaneous  wash/wipe feature. You can pull the stick forward for screen wash, but the wipers have to then be switched on seperately. VW appear to have also saved pennies by putting a interior light courtesy switch only on the drivers side door…

1981 1600 GTI (coming to a road near you soon…)

1983 1100 C

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Yo Greg

Some "non-luxury" golfs didn't have intermittent wipers but they are all are set up (and wired)  for this feature.  a Mk1 Bentley manual tells you how to go install them…..

In lieu of the relay there is a "jumper" (bent strip of brass with spade terminal ends) plugged into the relay plate.  This jumper is to be replaced by an "intermittent" wiper relay….beware 'cos you need the correct relay depending on the cars age (changed around '79ish).

There is a little nylon "wedge" inserted into the wiper switch….you'll need to remove the ignition lock shroud and temporarily remove the wiper switch (don't need to disconnect the switch). You will then see this little white nylon wedge which you can then pry out from the switch.  This allows you to move the switch to the fully down position where the wipers will operate in the intermittent mode.

DON'T PULL THIS WEDGE UNTIL YOU'VE FITTED THE RELAY (OR AT LEAST REMOVED THE JUMPER)


Cheers

PS Markwon, my wipers activate for a spell when the washers are activated…..'appen check your relay…and I've got a courtesy switch on each door (1982 series2)  ??!!!!

Mk1 GTI
B5 Passat Estate 5 SPeed
Riley 1071"S" Elf Mk2  (Bl**dy Hooligan machine!)
Bosch Lawnraker 32

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Thanks for the replys guys, i bought an airfilter, 15w50 oil, oil filter, inline fuel filter and condenser for the diz on me way home today, fitted the first two outside the shop. Will check for more oil tomorrow as have been driving quickly again :D Its a great little car, i hope the engine can deal with my driving, as i'm having a right laugh with it at the moment. I've never been in a mk1 gti, they must absolutely fly!!

Shame about the wiper, its surprising to think how useful the intermittent setting is.

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superworm said

In lieu of the relay there is a "jumper" (bent strip of brass with spade terminal ends) plugged into the relay plate.  This jumper is to be replaced by an "intermittent" wiper relay….beware 'cos you need the correct relay depending on the cars age (changed around '79ish).

There is a little nylon "wedge" inserted into the wiper switch….you'll need to remove the ignition lock shroud and temporarily remove the wiper switch (don't need to disconnect the switch). You will then see this little white nylon wedge which you can then pry out from the switch.  This allows you to move the switch to the fully down position where the wipers will operate in the intermittent mode.

DON'T PULL THIS WEDGE UNTIL YOU'VE FITTED THE RELAY (OR AT LEAST REMOVED THE JUMPER)

Superworm, my switch has 4 positions and only the top 2 do anything, so does this mean the wedge has already gone?
Don't suppose you have a part number for the second relay?!!
thanks for the info :D

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I would suspect that to be the case greg, as yours is a 1.1 model. I assumed they all had intermittant wipe on them as standard, as I have never been in a model below the CL, so I have learnt something today! Excellent!!  :D

As for the relay part number, I can find the part number for the one in my 1983 convertible tomorrow for you. This might be the same, might not. My in-depth knowledge of the car isn't as good as to know that information. I'll post it anyway, see if it's any good. to you. If it's a post 83 car then hopefully it will be the same relay.

1983 White cabriolet GTi

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Superworm wrote
and I've got a courtesy switch on each door (1982 series2) ??!!!!

Mines a 1983 DW chassis on a A plate. Thought the switch had broken at first, but on close inspection found there's a little blanking grommit fitted into the hole. Could easily fit a switch, but want to keep it original  :lol:

Funny that VW effectively disabled the intermitent wipe mode. Can't see this saved them any money - cheaper relay? Presumably gave them a cheap additional feature to put higher spec models along with the extra courtesy light switch.

1981 1600 GTI (coming to a road near you soon…)

1983 1100 C

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Yo Greg

Methinks the Intermittent wiper relays are:

1975-1978    111 955 531

1979 - on      321 955 531 A

above per Bentley Book  will check my ETKA to be sure.

(Updated ETKA lists the latter relay as 171 955 531)

The Relay fits into position "M" on the Relay Plate to replace the jumper across terminals 19 & 21

I agree that if you have 4 positions on the wiper stalk then someone must've removed the wedge


MarkWon…think of the savings…you only have to build 1 loom and the cost savings then burn down to a little bit of brass plate and a length of wire vs a whole relay…..there will be no cost difference on the actual installation…so a couple of million relays later, you've saved a few marks.

Based on the above, 'appen courtesy light wiring still lurks within your door…'praps have a shuftee next time you in that region so all you'll need is a switch….

Incidentally, anyone know how may Mk1's were produced….Germany, Westmoreland USA, Seth Efriky and brazil, etc ?????

Cheers

Mk1 GTI
B5 Passat Estate 5 SPeed
Riley 1071"S" Elf Mk2  (Bl**dy Hooligan machine!)
Bosch Lawnraker 32

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superworm, thats fantastic, thanks a lot  :D , i'll try and pick one up today.
Might be starting the mopping today too (waiting for my mate to get up, the lazy git) !

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If you don't have a passenger door-light switch, and no intermittent wipers, the car may be a Golf N, which is a lower spec than even the the Golf C - pre-1980 versions of the Golf N even came without headrests!

On an N, the badge on the tailgate should just say Golf (rather than Golf C or Golf CL), but may have been changed over the years.

However, as mentioned above, the wire for the door-switch, and the intemittent function are probably in the car, just waiting to be "brought to life".

PS: If you want a rev-counter, but no MFA (you will never get it working because the loom is different, and the MFA-loom will only work with the big-block engine), you can fit a set of clocks from a CL - you probably don't have the wire in your loom, but you can run a separate one from the coil to the correct pin on the 14-pin connector at the rear of the clocks (Haynes confirms which pin, and which side of the coil you need).

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Yo Greg

let us know how you got on with your wipers

Cheers

Mk1 GTI
B5 Passat Estate 5 SPeed
Riley 1071"S" Elf Mk2  (Bl**dy Hooligan machine!)
Bosch Lawnraker 32

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When was your car built Greg?

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Type17 - I definitly have a Golf C. Cheers for the CL clock tip, thats great, i'll start the search!

superworm - My local motorists trade centre didn't have the relay, or a mop bonnet for my buffer  :?  I'll get one in the week & let you know how i get on.

dubboy - Its an '83 (i've updated my sig)

An update on my weekend of restoration:
Got almost half the car clayed, farecla G3'd and meguires gold waxed this weekend, half is shining now. I debadged the back to rid it of all the krud, its come up so well i think i might leave them off! There's a fair few small rust spots and chips on the lower panels, but its looking way cleaner already. Also got a free set of orig vw mats and a free vw keyring off an old mate. Changed the oil, filters & condenser in the dizzy (was gonna do the fuel filter, but it was new). Cleaned up the diz cap, alternator and engine bay somewhat. Fixed the handbrake so it works with one wire (other to come soon). Cleaned the dash up and put some stuff on it to make it shine.
I also bought an airfreshener!

On the way home from the gf's house to mine she overtook me on a dual carridgeway in her clio 1.2 . damnit . need some NOS or something  :lol:

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Greg said

Cheers for the CL clock tip, thats great, i'll start the search!

superworm - My local motorists trade centre didn't have the relay

By the way, you would also find this set of clocks in a Mk1 GL or GLS.

You should be able to get the relay at the breakers,  from any 1980's VW or Audi.

Also, if you fit a rear wiper relay from a Mk2 Golf/Polo (marked "72" on top), it will give you a six-second intermittent rear wiper (ideal for driving over 40MPH in the wet).

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cool, thanks, i need to find a good german marque breakers nearby.
So the rear intermit will work with a fwd push on the right stick, and stop with another fwd push? That would be useful.

cheers.
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