Non start issues
Posted
#1453276
(In Topic #192156)
Settled In
I might be being stupid but I'm sure someone will set me straight .....
Hi guys
I have a 1988 golf clipper cabrio auto and I have a starting issue.
It happens only when the engine is warm/hot I try and fire up the engine say after filling up and it won't turn over. The previous owner has tried a new starter motor and that has made no difference, so he has proceeded to fit a hot wire button.
Basically this is wired straight from the battery to the starter motor via a button and the car doesn't fail to start.
So does anyone have any ideas where to start as I want the engine bay back to standard without extra wires and I fear for the security of the car with the hot start button.
Thanks in advance
Adam
I have a 1988 golf clipper cabrio auto and I have a starting issue.
It happens only when the engine is warm/hot I try and fire up the engine say after filling up and it won't turn over. The previous owner has tried a new starter motor and that has made no difference, so he has proceeded to fit a hot wire button.
Basically this is wired straight from the battery to the starter motor via a button and the car doesn't fail to start.
So does anyone have any ideas where to start as I want the engine bay back to standard without extra wires and I fear for the security of the car with the hot start button.
Thanks in advance
Adam
Posted
Settled In
??? Anyone ???
Posted
Settled In
ignition switch
Old dubs never die, they just get lower
Posted
Settled In
The chap I bought it off said he had replaced a grey connector at the back would that be the same thing ???
I only ask as even repeated attempts to start or wiggling the key has no effect ??
Cheers for your help with this as I can't find much that seems relative
I only ask as even repeated attempts to start or wiggling the key has no effect ??
Cheers for your help with this as I can't find much that seems relative
Posted
Settled In
I had my ignition switch go and it would sometimes start and then nothing just lights but wouldn't crank try the switch there a feed on how to change it.
Posted
Settled In
taken your advice boys and have the car booked in for the ignition switch replaced at a local VW specialist on Thursday.
lets see if this works !!!!!
Fingers crossed everyone.
lets see if this works !!!!!
Fingers crossed everyone.
Posted
MOTY 2013
if not the wire from switch to starter may be droppign voltage, its a common prob especially on autos as they suffer from heat soak. a vw approved repair is to fit a relay in the engien bay triggered by the old starter wire to feed the starter with full 12v direct from the battery. basically what the po did with the switch only you dont have to manually press it
Hello my name is John and I'm a dub addict.
My wiring diagrams and other documents have moved here:
VAG Documents & Downloads
You'll need to sign into google/gmail for the link to work! (its free!)
My wiring diagrams and other documents have moved here:
VAG Documents & Downloads
You'll need to sign into google/gmail for the link to work! (its free!)
Posted
Settled In
Awesome info mate !!!!! It's booked in at a Vw specialist tomorrow for the ignition switch but I will mention this !!!
Just to clarify then it would be a relay in the ignition live to the starter motor with a permanent live from the battery ????
You dont have any info on this do you ???
Cheers ad
Just to clarify then it would be a relay in the ignition live to the starter motor with a permanent live from the battery ????
You dont have any info on this do you ???
Cheers ad
Posted
MOTY 2013
you would grab yourself a standard 4 pin switched relay and wire like so:
30 - battery +
86 - old red/black starter wire
87 - to starter
31/85 - battery -
you could put an inline fuse on the live feed if you like, but the factory trigger wire isnt fused
30 - battery +
86 - old red/black starter wire
87 - to starter
31/85 - battery -
you could put an inline fuse on the live feed if you like, but the factory trigger wire isnt fused
Hello my name is John and I'm a dub addict.
My wiring diagrams and other documents have moved here:
VAG Documents & Downloads
You'll need to sign into google/gmail for the link to work! (its free!)
My wiring diagrams and other documents have moved here:
VAG Documents & Downloads
You'll need to sign into google/gmail for the link to work! (its free!)
Posted
Settled In
Bloody 'ell your good !!!!!!
well its in at the garage now having the switch fitted either way - at least its a piece of mind.
If that doesn't work then happy days I be giving myself another electrical shock on Saturday.
Thanks everyone for your help on this, its genuinely appreciated.
well its in at the garage now having the switch fitted either way - at least its a piece of mind.
If that doesn't work then happy days I be giving myself another electrical shock on Saturday.
Thanks everyone for your help on this, its genuinely appreciated.
Posted
Settled In
Just one last question what amperage relay would be required ????
Posted
MOTY 2013
20a plus be fine, pretty much any if not all std switched relay you find will be man enough put it that way
if you wanted to keep it VW look for a #53 relay thats the same as a std automotive switched relay
if you wanted to keep it VW look for a #53 relay thats the same as a std automotive switched relay
Hello my name is John and I'm a dub addict.
My wiring diagrams and other documents have moved here:
VAG Documents & Downloads
You'll need to sign into google/gmail for the link to work! (its free!)
My wiring diagrams and other documents have moved here:
VAG Documents & Downloads
You'll need to sign into google/gmail for the link to work! (its free!)
Posted
Settled In
That's amazing, thanks for your help so I'm guessing 3mm core for 12v and 1.6mm core for the starter wires ???
I'm scared of setting my motor on fire by being a complete moron !!!
I'm scared of setting my motor on fire by being a complete moron !!!
Posted
MOTY 2013
yeah 3mm2 will do, same core for the wires to pin 30 and from 87 to the starter. the 86 wire will be the old starter wire anyway, and the 31/85 wire is just an earth trigger so can be wee.
Hello my name is John and I'm a dub addict.
My wiring diagrams and other documents have moved here:
VAG Documents & Downloads
You'll need to sign into google/gmail for the link to work! (its free!)
My wiring diagrams and other documents have moved here:
VAG Documents & Downloads
You'll need to sign into google/gmail for the link to work! (its free!)
Posted
Settled In
Loom pre built to try on the car tomorrow !!! Hopefully will get a dry afternoon to work on it !!!!
Posted
Settled In
I would like to say a massive thank you to everyone who helped especially rubjonny I have made the wiring harness and fitted it today and so far so good !!!! I will take some photos to add to the thread so anyone needing help at a later date should be able to see how I've done it.
0 guests and 0 members have just viewed this: None.