1.8T driveshaft / wheel bearing problem ?

Im in the middle of Mk1 1.8T conversion with 02J transmission and noticed problem when mounting driveshafts (from scirocco).

When i tighten axle nut on driver side (LDH car) even a little bit it makes it really hard to turn wheel by hand.
Iv been tightening a nut while car is on jackstands with 1/2 rachet without even using brakes against, so its not even close to specific torque yet.

On passenger side wheel turns just fine.
If i tighten both side axle nuts and try to turn wheel by hand on passenger side, it turns just fine, but driver side is so tight that it doesnt even turn at the same time as it should.

With axle nut loose on drivers side it turns by hand just fine.

Both side bearings are new. Sometime last year I took both knuckels off and took new bearings with them to the shop for them to change those.

As you can see on the photo driver side driveshaft is slightly off, its not perfectly lined with the wheel, but on the transmission rear mount there isnt any more slack to bring engine more backwards…



What do you think, does this have something to do with the fact that driveshaft is slighly off or is it possible that new bearing on the drivers side get too tight / is shot ?

Thanks !

answered a similar thing here:
https://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/forum/index.php?page=topicview&id=technical%2Frunning-gear_2%2Fright-front-wheel-is

it is probably the wrong clip.


The proper clip is in the rear, the large bad eared clip is in the front.

A lot of kits on the interweb have the wrong clip, just re-use your old ones.

There is also the incompatibility of shafts, as a 90mm shaft will work in a 100mm spindle, but not vice-a-versa, as well as some newer shafts that have the wrong lip on the end and you have to grind it down to work.  If you google mk1 Axle shaft grinding you willsee quite a few links.

https://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/forum/index.php?page=topicview&id=running-gear_2%2Fdriveshaft-rubbing-hub

I will look into those, thanks !

I think my driveshafts should be the correct ones.
Iv got SKF VKJC 1011 and VKJC 1118, which should be correct ones for Scirocco that people say are the ones to go with.
Infos on both axles say, that CV diameter on gearbox side is 100mm and hub side 90mm, but i will also measure those.
Car is -83 and used to have 1.6 engine in it. Cant remember sizes of old axles and iv already sold those along with old engine and 020 gearbox, but as far as i remember they were 90mm.

The CV inner is 100 and the spindles are 90?  then you need to change the  tranny hubs to 90 and reuse your axles if they are good or get get the proper axles after changing the axle cups to 90.

On my 93 Blue cabby the 010 tna 100mm tranny went, I sourced a 010 tj with 90mm axles cups.  Since the Axles were crapazoid on the new tranny, I opted to have them rebuilt…. because I knew that the 90mm axle would work in the 100mm spindle. The 90mm spindle is different and the 100mm axle won't work.  Swapping the axles allowed me to have a spare set of 100's for my other Cabby.

I suspect that you could rebuild the 100mm ends for 90 and that would work… But I think it is way easier to replace the axle cups for 90, and use 90 axles, you are going to have to make one change or the other that is
I am thinking (and I could be wrong) Change the Cups on the Tranny to 90 would require new seals, and use the 90mm axles or change your spindles from 90 to 100, which would require new bearings possibly the hubs as well.

Some say that the higher torque of the bigger engine on my 93 that the 90mm axles wouldn't last, but gee, I had it over 95mph on the road for hours many a jack rabbit start for my auto, and the axles lasted… matter of fact I only had to replace the boots over the next 12 years about 3 times….




 

Tranny side is just fine, they are already bolted on without any problems after all.

But I will source set of new clips for bearings (i hope vw dealer can source those, i think oem code for them is 171407635A) and see if FAG bearings had wrong ones.

Just took a quick glance at the car now that I got off from work and it seems that on the drivers side the outer CV might be the one holding against.

Passenger side, which is just fine :


Drivers side, which gets stuck :

Sorry Briano, i didnt fully understand what you ment first, but i totally get you now. This made it clear for me pretty well,

Rebuilding my axles and major parts problem with outer CV joint, 84 Rabbit | VW Vortex - Volkswagen Forum

I guess ill try to go with cheapest version first and try to grind down the outer cv:s to fit.

Changing knuckles would be ideal, but finding ones used could be tough and new ones are rather costly.
For the same reason id rather grind cv than knuckles, incase something goes wrong..

Edit. I also read that, you probably could get away with putting small spacer between to space axle from the hub.
That would be too easy, right?

As an update.

It was indeed outer cv hitting knuckle and I also made sure I had correct circlips there.

I just sended it with dremel and carbide bit and grinded down knuckes after all : I decided not to grind cv:s, becouse I would need to do it everytime again if they need replacing at some point and also if there was even a slightest chance imbalance would give me any trouble.
Also using spacer/washer there sure would have been easyest way, but meh.

Didnt take much effort at all and I decided to do both sides while at it, even tho passenger side didnt give me any trouble (yet). I was able to do it without even removing knuckles from the car.

All fixed now and working. Thanks!

Glad I could point you in the correct location, and good on you mate.  I love happy endings.

Sorry to jump on your thread chaps (it's the newest one I could find). But does anyone know where I can get the newer 90mm cups from here in the uk? I have an '82 1.5 cab (which I no longer have the engine or box for) and am finally getting round to putting it back on the road, I have a 1.8 gti and 1.6 carb engine's both with gearboxes but they both have 100mm cups whereas my original shafts are 90mm. I rebuilt my original shafts and only then found out the cups are wrong! Apologies again for jumping in bit any advice would be appreciated. Thanks. 👍