Fiting a webber carb.
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Fiting a webber carb.
I have got a Webber 32TLA carb. that I have been runing on a MK2 1300 HK block, Can I fit this on to my 1300 MK1 engin. I can't identify the engin no. But it is a tappet head with exaust heated manifould.
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Golf boy,
I have a 1.3 HK engine in my MK1 golf - tho I have a pierburg 2E fitted.
I have been trying to change to a Weber, but have been advised by some of the carb people I have rung that the mk1 golf manifold has a different carb fitting from the HK 1272cc manifold, meaning I cannot use carbs meant for a MK1, i.e PIC(T) or the right Weber (forgotten the number).
If this is true then it suggests your carb will not fit onto a standard MK1 manifold. If you have the GG or other standard engine and manifold in your MK1 and want a Weber then you will need one meant for a MK1, or to source/make a coversion or plate, or to change the manifold for that off your HK (assuming it fits, I don't know..).
Then again I cannot swear by the advice. Does anyone know any better? Maybe all the manifolds are the same where the carb bolts on?
No idea about the air filter end of the carb, tho I suppose you can use the filter box off the HK engine if you have problems.
By the way, if your HK carb will not fit your MK1 manifold, I could be interested in buying it…my pierburg is pants.
hope this helps,
h
I have a 1.3 HK engine in my MK1 golf - tho I have a pierburg 2E fitted.
I have been trying to change to a Weber, but have been advised by some of the carb people I have rung that the mk1 golf manifold has a different carb fitting from the HK 1272cc manifold, meaning I cannot use carbs meant for a MK1, i.e PIC(T) or the right Weber (forgotten the number).
If this is true then it suggests your carb will not fit onto a standard MK1 manifold. If you have the GG or other standard engine and manifold in your MK1 and want a Weber then you will need one meant for a MK1, or to source/make a coversion or plate, or to change the manifold for that off your HK (assuming it fits, I don't know..).
Then again I cannot swear by the advice. Does anyone know any better? Maybe all the manifolds are the same where the carb bolts on?
No idea about the air filter end of the carb, tho I suppose you can use the filter box off the HK engine if you have problems.
By the way, if your HK carb will not fit your MK1 manifold, I could be interested in buying it…my pierburg is pants.
hope this helps,
h
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Old Timer
You could bolt an HK inlet manifold straight upto the Mk1 engine though. You would need to fit the front pipe off something like a pre-1979 VW Derby as this doesn't have the stupid exhaust heated manifold jobbie. You'd also have to block the exhaust port in the head.
Acutally, scratch that, just make up an adaptor plate to fit your new carb on your existing inlet manifold…
Acutally, scratch that, just make up an adaptor plate to fit your new carb on your existing inlet manifold…
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Steve,
Is that heater thing worth getting rid of?
I now have a weber 32/34DMTL on my HK engined 1.3, but am just using the standard inlet manifold. Any tips on whether to leave the heater wire connected, or should I disconnect it before I source an earlier manifold as you suggest?
Very interested in the pics of your driver by the way. I have a suitable German inlet manifold and a set of twin Dellorto 40s sat in my bedroom, but I was worried about clearance with the bulkhead and fuel consumption. Can see they fit, and the performance sounds great, but what's the economy like?
Thanks,
h
Is that heater thing worth getting rid of?
I now have a weber 32/34DMTL on my HK engined 1.3, but am just using the standard inlet manifold. Any tips on whether to leave the heater wire connected, or should I disconnect it before I source an earlier manifold as you suggest?
Very interested in the pics of your driver by the way. I have a suitable German inlet manifold and a set of twin Dellorto 40s sat in my bedroom, but I was worried about clearance with the bulkhead and fuel consumption. Can see they fit, and the performance sounds great, but what's the economy like?
Thanks,
h
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Old Timer
ooh, another mk 1 with an HK in it…..i've got a 34 solex on my HK seems to run fine…..although i think a weber is probably for the best…..can you still get them new ?!
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h said
what's the economy like?
PANTS!!!!
Carbs sound sooooooo lovely - you can't help but have a heavy right foot. Result - Poor economy!
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Old Timer
The economy twin weber 40's give is an interesteing point. I have had a measured 29.7 mile per gallon and get that kind of figure quite regularly.
Many people will tell you that they are totally oneconomical ond not suitable for an everyday road car. This is nonesense. If they are jetted correctly, choked down enough and the fuel supply is via an adjustable pressure regulator which has also been set properly along with correct float heights and proper balancing they will, and do, provide excellent fuel economy as wel as outright performance.
I know a chap with a 1.6 Lancia Delta on 4'5 who regularly gets 34 to 36 mpg…
Many people will tell you that they are totally oneconomical ond not suitable for an everyday road car. This is nonesense. If they are jetted correctly, choked down enough and the fuel supply is via an adjustable pressure regulator which has also been set properly along with correct float heights and proper balancing they will, and do, provide excellent fuel economy as wel as outright performance.
I know a chap with a 1.6 Lancia Delta on 4'5 who regularly gets 34 to 36 mpg…
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Old Timer
I can agree with Steve on this.
Different car obviously, on my 1600 bug, i've got twin dual barrel 36 webers, and under normal driving its BETTER than the 34 solex i had before.
Different car obviously, on my 1600 bug, i've got twin dual barrel 36 webers, and under normal driving its BETTER than the 34 solex i had before.
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Interesting about economy with twin Webers…Though I can't even get 29mpg with my single Weber though (but not yet set up on a rolling road).
Was about to put my twin Dellortos and manifold on ebay, but might just hold on to them now..
In answer to Gold-mk1's question, twin choke webers are available new, though the prices are a joke (I got quoted between ?300 and ?400!).
I got a 32/34 DMTL off ebay in the end - brand new and boxed for ?100. Was for a 1.3 Nova auto, but a bracket from local Weber stockist (Formula One in Brighton) for ?14 and it fitted straight on. Bear in mind this was a replacement for Pierburg, not a Solex carb though (I've got a later HK 1300 engine).
h
Was about to put my twin Dellortos and manifold on ebay, but might just hold on to them now..
In answer to Gold-mk1's question, twin choke webers are available new, though the prices are a joke (I got quoted between ?300 and ?400!).
I got a 32/34 DMTL off ebay in the end - brand new and boxed for ?100. Was for a 1.3 Nova auto, but a bracket from local Weber stockist (Formula One in Brighton) for ?14 and it fitted straight on. Bear in mind this was a replacement for Pierburg, not a Solex carb though (I've got a later HK 1300 engine).
h
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Old Timer
Get the DellOrtos on there! They are more economical than Webers when peoperly setup as there are like 11 different progression drillings available (compared to Webers 4) so they can be as smooth and civilised as you like.
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