carbs not inj 16v

how much less wiring will there be if going down the carb route?   what wiring will i need?

thanks

A carb conversion wil have it's own set of problems aside from the wiring issue.

You haven't said what car it's going into, so it's not easy to help.

Why go to carbs to  your going back in time

why not?

 Depends what your into. You can't beat the sound of a well set up engine on carbs! There's no good reason to say it's going back in time dude. If that was the case weber and companies like eurocarb wouldn't exist.

It's not easy living with performance carbs, but it's worth it.

Other than that only other way for me would be throttle bodies or bin the valver for a 1.8t

come on carbs belong in the stone age, these companies exist because for whatever reason people do still want them but anything carbs can do injection does better, and carbs arent even cheap.

So does K jet! God knows why VW took so long to go with EFI! Peugeot ran the 205 GTI on EFI and It came out in 1985! Even Ford had thrown in the towel by the 1990's switching to EFI on the Fiesta Turbo.

I guess It all depends on the circles you move in. Personally I'm onto the Retro scene and that's where carbs are from! I have no problem running carbs, you just need to give the car a bit of time to warm up, which is no detriment to an 18 yr old lump that's covered 118k!

Don't be scared of carbs just becuase they're full of voodoo magic and grandpas cough medicine

Ha! nice post dude...

I'd say carbs if you like swallowing pigeons whole n farting them out your exhaust

mine were pretty lumpy on idle, you had to be prepared for bouncing revs etc, odd cold starts n stuff. but on full blast hell yeah! not great for round town/daily drive.

injection if you just wanna tootle around town drive smooth n generally blend in n drive like you would in a normal car n have the reliablilty in the morning (if its done propper)

I don't suffer fro too much of the down side of carbs as I only have the one. I guess the issue of balance is removed as both sides feed into a common intake…

I'm not sure I could live with it as a daily driver, but for a toy its great.

I ended up selling the twin dellorto's I had as I couldn't face the expense of fully rebuilding them and also the hassle of setting them up when they would sit over the 'zorst and face the fire wall!!

If I ever get the funds to drop a valver in then I'm going carbs without a doubt. Already got a 2d weber alpha management system to handle the ignition side.

you'll need the 16v ign cvontrol unit & loom to sort ign advance, or find suitable dizzy that has vacuum advance.
16v loom would be my choice, and dont worry its dead easy to wire up, bugger all wiring really everything you need is in the engine bay, dont have to touch the fusebox.

if it runs properly with only the tci and loom with no ecu i will eat my own arse

chris-h said

So does K jet! God knows why VW took so long to go with EFI!

….because mechanical fuel injection works! The reason they moved to electronic (firstly with the KE-Jet, then Digifant, neither of which are well respected) is for emissions reasons, not performance. Basically it was so they could also use a catalytic converter, which needs the air:fuel ratio close to stoichiometric. And in fact, if you look back a little further, VW were one of the first with fuel injection, using D-Jetronic in the VW Type 3 in 1968.

K-Jet doesn't have many issues and is very tunable.

as mogs says, running it without at least 16v ecu is going to be poor, dizzy has no built in advance so it will be rubbish. if you can find a vac advance dizzy that fits it will be better, but trouble is getting one with a decent advance curve right.

apparently a dizzy off a pug 1.9 gti works pretty well with the 16v, not done it mesen tho. otherwise need a points ign dizzy from a MK1 1.3, as you can imagine ign curve isnt going to be great!

there are places that can play with the advance curve, but getting to be a bit of a dying artform now.