Aftermarket fuel pump/system for K-Jet Mk1? Facet?
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Aftermarket fuel pump/system for K-Jet Mk1? Facet?
Hi, has anyone seen aftermarket fuel pumps (e.g. facet) on k-jet systems?
Not looking to alter k-jet, just the feed from tank to metering head.
Thx in advance
Not looking to alter k-jet, just the feed from tank to metering head.
Thx in advance
"When I bang my hand on the dash, check for valve bounce."
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Local Hero
They're a little expensive but the standard pump is fine. Never had a problem finding a new or secondhand replacement, if needs be. So I don't really see the point of "aftermarket" since it wouldn't improve performance or anything else, etc.
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Newbie
Except it's MOT time again soon and my whole pump/accumulator/steel pipes were all on caution last time - And I can't find an accumulator new (Old story). Throwing a quick facet and some hose at it seems sensible.
(And engine is fairly modified - It might *like* it :twisted: )
(And engine is fairly modified - It might *like* it :twisted: )
"When I bang my hand on the dash, check for valve bounce."
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Local Hero
TomGti said
Except it's MOT time again soon and my whole pump/accumulator/steel pipes was all on caution last time - And I can't find an accumulator new (Old story). Throwing a quick facet and some hose at it seems sensible.
(And engine is fairly modified - It might like it) :twisted:
Have you tried seeking out a decent secondhand accumulator?
You know when you say "Facet", what model of facet pump do you mean, because AFAIK that's the manufacturer and they probably do loads of different products. I don't know if they do a model which would deliver a high enough fuel pressure for the K-Jet.
An alternative might be to adapt Mercedes parts for 1980-1993 era FI mercs. They used KE-Jet.
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Old Timer
didn't mk3 XR3i's use k jet ? ford pump might work :dontknow:
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Newbie
I looked for new and used accumulators a year ago or so - were thin on ground then… + I've done fuel feed system replacements before
(+ Have a facet lying around (Will get model No) )
Question is (As you said) what pressure does k-jet need/What pressure does pump supply + do I need a regulator?
Or a Porsche 924, Audi something…
(+ Have a facet lying around (Will get model No) )
Question is (As you said) what pressure does k-jet need/What pressure does pump supply + do I need a regulator?
paul_c said
An alternative might be to adapt Mercedes parts for 1980-1993 era FI mercs. They used KE-Jet.
Or a Porsche 924, Audi something…
"When I bang my hand on the dash, check for valve bounce."
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Old Timer
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Newbie
paul_h said
didn't mk3 XR3i's use k jet ? ford pump might work :dontknow:
FORD Escort XR3i (K Jetronic) fuel pump >89 -O/E 0580254910)-(580254910)/product_info.html
Yup…
EDIT:
Now, here's me running round wondering why I didn't see all those fuel pumps and accumulator before on ebay then I remember:
If anyone can link me to an exactly right brand new set of *steel pipes to connect them together* I'll… shake them by the hand…
"When I bang my hand on the dash, check for valve bounce."
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Old Timer
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Newbie
The facet pump I have spare (On a Greedy but off-the-road 1380cc Mini) looks just like this one:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FUEL-PUMP-FACET-SOLID-STATE-FAST-ROAD-UP-TO-150BHP-NEW_W0QQitemZ200326996927QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item2ea46b63bf&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1683|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A50
And I can't see my Golf being at or over 150bhp…
EDIT:
Found this place -> http://www.golfmk1.co.uk/products.php?cat=ALL
Lots to look at
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Right Time out time out time out :TTT: :TT: :T:
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I'm getting ahead of myself here: My main problem is the steel fuel pipes that are under the car just in front of the right rear wheel and their legal implications (I think there are two seperate pipes with 4 associated unions). Problem is they're wrecked - impending MOT won't go well - and I'm doing copper brake pipes right now so thinking a lot about pipe/tube/hose… (+Goodridge braids in my GtiLootBox ready to go)
The accumulator and pump aren't knackered but mounts are a bit knackered and components themselves look pretty corroded. *I don't know about the two fuel lines that run the length of the car - Might be knackered aswell*
When I invent a budget @QuiffysPlace I get a big fat nonononononobadboyhinnalondon. So feeding the original fuel pump (Mounted in engine bay) from a (home made and also in engine bay) swirl pot fed by my 4.5psi facet and some stock hose seems to cut out a number of expensive components (3-4 braided fuel lines from QuiffysPlace).
!!Could move header tank to make space - It gets in way of strut-brace anyway!!
I'm getting ahead of myself again - you can tell…………………………….. :twisted:
I'll be back to bump/edit this post. The whole damn thing's driving me mad - I keep just thinking "CuteeeetChopeeeet". Google "Autograss" and you'll see where I'm coming from. Bulkheads don't get in my way - Only rules.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FUEL-PUMP-FACET-SOLID-STATE-FAST-ROAD-UP-TO-150BHP-NEW_W0QQitemZ200326996927QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item2ea46b63bf&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1683|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A50
And I can't see my Golf being at or over 150bhp…
EDIT:
Found this place -> http://www.golfmk1.co.uk/products.php?cat=ALL
Lots to look at
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Right Time out time out time out :TTT: :TT: :T:
__________________________________________
I'm getting ahead of myself here: My main problem is the steel fuel pipes that are under the car just in front of the right rear wheel and their legal implications (I think there are two seperate pipes with 4 associated unions). Problem is they're wrecked - impending MOT won't go well - and I'm doing copper brake pipes right now so thinking a lot about pipe/tube/hose… (+Goodridge braids in my GtiLootBox ready to go)
The accumulator and pump aren't knackered but mounts are a bit knackered and components themselves look pretty corroded. *I don't know about the two fuel lines that run the length of the car - Might be knackered aswell*
When I invent a budget @QuiffysPlace I get a big fat nonononononobadboyhinnalondon. So feeding the original fuel pump (Mounted in engine bay) from a (home made and also in engine bay) swirl pot fed by my 4.5psi facet and some stock hose seems to cut out a number of expensive components (3-4 braided fuel lines from QuiffysPlace).
!!Could move header tank to make space - It gets in way of strut-brace anyway!!
I'm getting ahead of myself again - you can tell…………………………….. :twisted:
I'll be back to bump/edit this post. The whole damn thing's driving me mad - I keep just thinking "CuteeeetChopeeeet". Google "Autograss" and you'll see where I'm coming from. Bulkheads don't get in my way - Only rules.
"When I bang my hand on the dash, check for valve bounce."
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Settling In
That pump is a solid state pump, they are low pressure pumps
for Carb's, ive been looking at my fuel system as ive done away
with carbs and going K-jet, ive got a Webber 125psi pump
for the TB kit ive got there off another car and going to make that
fit as the pressure reg is in the metering head
for Carb's, ive been looking at my fuel system as ive done away
with carbs and going K-jet, ive got a Webber 125psi pump
for the TB kit ive got there off another car and going to make that
fit as the pressure reg is in the metering head
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Local Hero
If its leaking, just replace the pump, accumulator and fuel lines, everyone else does.
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Local Hero
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MOTY 2013
pretty sure gsf does both the pump and accumulator new as well, bit pricey but k-jet items always are. if you spend a lot of time on ebay you can pick up bargains, ford, audi, saab, merc, porsch and even ferrari have used variations of k-jet over the years.
Cant recommend crazyquiff enough for fuel lines, they're very good quality and fit as per oem. even let me exchange my main lines when i changed my mind and decided to go 16v instead of 8v
Cant recommend crazyquiff enough for fuel lines, they're very good quality and fit as per oem. even let me exchange my main lines when i changed my mind and decided to go 16v instead of 8v
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(I nearly went and edited my last post since it's all a bit drunk and stoned, lol.. Re-read it and it's funny tho :mrgreen: )
I think where I am is I have to admit the car's back off the road temporarily and start removing parts. Then I'll know if relocation to somewhere mad will actually save me money… It's over ?200 already at crazyquiff for four hoses - though they do look top notch! I'll have to ring them when I'm sure of what I need.
So it's either:
Or keep letting my imagination have a go until it gives up…
Aha! - So if my fuel pump has the juice (Which the facet one doesn't), it'should run since pressure reg is in metering head. Hmmm…
Right, no more thinking till I've pulled it apart.
( Crazyquiff: can you do a hose to connect standard pump to fuel filter under bonnet? Not sure about return yet…)
I think where I am is I have to admit the car's back off the road temporarily and start removing parts. Then I'll know if relocation to somewhere mad will actually save me money… It's over ?200 already at crazyquiff for four hoses - though they do look top notch! I'll have to ring them when I'm sure of what I need.
So it's either:
paul_c said
If its leaking, just replace the pump, accumulator and fuel lines, everyone else does.
Or keep letting my imagination have a go until it gives up…
MickC said
That pump is a solid state pump, they are low pressure pumps
for Carb's, ive been looking at my fuel system as ive done away
with carbs and going K-jet, ive got a Webber 125psi pump
for the TB kit ive got there off another car and going to make that
fit as the pressure reg is in the metering head
Aha! - So if my fuel pump has the juice (Which the facet one doesn't), it'should run since pressure reg is in metering head. Hmmm…
Right, no more thinking till I've pulled it apart.
( Crazyquiff: can you do a hose to connect standard pump to fuel filter under bonnet? Not sure about return yet…)
"When I bang my hand on the dash, check for valve bounce."
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