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Advice needed - raising from the dead (not quite)

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Advice needed - raising from the dead (not quite)

Hi all, I have a mk1 golf cabby (1.8 gti) which has been standing for 2 years now due to not having the
finances to get it back on the road.

This has now changed and I wanted to get as much advice as possible as to what to do to get
it back on the road with the minimum amount of hassle.

The last time the car was used, it was in full working order then parked on the drive and left.
It has never been started in that time.

I need to get a new battery for it and will obviously check all the levels before I try and start it.

Can anyone tell me what else I need to check before I start it and any tips you have for getting
the car running (e.g. using eezi-start).

Hopefully there will be plenty of suggestions forthcoming and perhaps someone has experience in this.

Thanks in advance.

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i am sure the guys will be over soon to give you some sound advise, off the top of my head

drain and change, oil, water, fluids, petrol etc

then new battery, start it, check for smoke etc if all o.k let it run up to temperature, bit of air in tyres but your side walls maybe cracked so new tyres maybe needed

there may be some threads on this if you do a search

best of luck with it

Rich

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I am budgeting for new tyres, I imagine that as they have been flat for so long they will no
longer be useable.

Would you definitely change the oil before seeing if it will start, concerned that the money on new oil
would be wasted if the engine is seized.

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Also, what are peoples views on whether to drain the fuel tank ?

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See the list below, I got it on the web somewhere one time and I thought it was useful, I hope it helps you out  :D

1. DON'T TRY TO START YOUR CAR ENGINE: This can result in serious damage to the pistons and cylinder bores (see section 4).

2. TAKE A CLOSE LOOK: Make a visual inspection of tyres, engine compartment, interior and undersides. You're looking for anything that's changed over the storage period: rust, perished rubber seals and hoses, excessively deflated tyres, seepages and leaks from engine, gearbox, brake lines, cylinders, axles, half-shafts and wheel bearings.

3. THE BATTERY: While you are completing the tasks, you can charge the battery. First, top up the cells with correct battery fluid (not tap or distilled water). Next, clean battery posts with abrasive paper or wire wool. It should then be trickle charged, either by you or by professionals with the correct equipment. The battery ran down slowly and to ensure long, reliable service it should be charged slowly. Jump starting a discharged battery from another car will shorten your battery life considerably and can be dangerous.

4. THE ENGINE: Any oil will have drained from cylinder bores to the bottom of the sump, so remove the sparking plugs (giving them a clean and setting gaps as you go) and squirt a thimble full of upper cylinder lubricant, such as Redex or light engine oil into each cylinder bore. Now spin the engine over on the starter for 10 to 15 seconds, then replace the plugs.

5. THE COOLING SYSTEM: If the system has been drained, flush the system using a hose. Then refill with the correct proportion of good-quality, anti-freeze solution (which contains a corrosion inhibitor), or with one of the special inhibitor additives on the market. Penrite produces one for use in the older or classic car, and its application is especially important if your car has aluminium or alloy cylinder heads or other engine castings.

Once you've filled the system inspect for leaks in the radiator core, header tank, at all hose connections (including smaller heater hoses), at cylinder head and water pump gasket joints and most importantly at all the engine core plugs. A leak spotted now could save you an expensive overheat and breakdown.

If you did not drain the system, you should ideally take this opportunity to drain and replenish the system. Otherwise you must at least use a tester (available from any motor accessory shop) to check the strength of the anti-freeze solution.

6. CHECKING/CHANGING GEAR-BOX AND FINAL DRIVE OIL: You should at least check and top up the oil levels in gearbox and axle casings. If you have any doubt about how many summers the oil has been in there change it, following the manufacturer's original specification recommendations (in some cases modern oils with detergents will not be suitable). A few pounds spent now on new oil can save expensive gear wear and bearing replacements at a later date.

7. PETROL: Remember that petrol deteriorates as it evaporates, so leave no more than a quarter of a tankfull over the storage period. Don't drain the tank completely as it may start to rust from the inside. As part of your start-up procedure you should add some fresh petrol. If the petrol has stood unused for over a year it will probably have a strange sweet, smell. In this case drain and dispose of it properly, refilling with fresh.

8. INTERIOR TRIM: This seldom gets a thought at this time of year, but if you have valuable leather upholstery now is the time to "feed" it, before summer sun dries it out further and cracks appear. Use a hide food cream such as the one marketed by Connolly.

9. ELECTRICAL ITEMS: Before installing the battery, check all main electrical connections to see if they are tight and clean. The starter motor is usually too well encased to give it much attention, but if you have a set-up where the Bendix gear is visible through the clutch bell-housing, a light oil spray like WD40 will ensure that it doesn't stick through dryness or rust when first used. If you've got an electric fuel-pump remove the end cover and clean up electrical contact points with a fine abrasive paper. Failure to do this is the cause of many an aborted start-up attempt.

10. Install the battery, making sure terminals securely tightened and smeared with a petroleum-based grease.

11. POSSIBLE PROBLEMS - BRAKES: Now you're ready to roll - not drive - the car out of the garage. The reason you shouldn't try to drive out is that your brakes may have seized (if you've stored the car on axle stands this shouldn't happen as you should not have applied the handbrake. Preferably, store the car without applying the handbrake even if its resting on its wheels, leaving it in gear or using chocks).

If the disc or drum has seized, put the car in gear, jack the vehicle securely, support it properly on a stout axle stand and lever the wheel in a forward rotation. Don't use excessive force though. If it doesn't shift, strip the drum or disc and clean rust off using coarse abrasive paper or emery cloth (do not breathe the dust resulting from this - wear a mask).

12. PRIMING THE CARBURETTORS: Once you've rolled the car out, it's time to prime the fuel pump by hand (mechanical types) if possible. You can also put some fresh petrol in the float bowl of the carburettor. Now turn the ignition switch on and if you have an electric fuel pump listen for its ticking.

13. If all's well you're ready to start using your normal cold starting procedure.

14. WARM-UP CHECKS: With the engine warming up you should take a walk round the car, looking at the engine bay for any leaks, and listening for unusual sounds, for example a blow in the exhaust caused by a rust hole developing over the storage period. Check all the lights, horn and other electrical gear and pump road tyres and spare to correct pressure. Now is also a good time to inspect tyre tread and sidewalls for wear, cracking and foreign objects.

15. CLUTCH OPERATION CHECK: At this point you're ready for a gentle trial run and you may encounter one of the more common start-up problems, a seized clutch. There are two ways to solve this problem. One is to safely support the driven wheels clear of the ground, securely blocking the other wheels. Start the engine with a gear engaged and snatch the brakes on and off with the clutch depressed.

If this doesn't work, you can try roll starting your car in second gear (on a safe, quiet road with plenty of space in front of you) and then apply the clutch and brake together at about 10mph. But be aware that this can break something in the transmission.

If after several attempts neither approach works the only alternative, unfortunately, is to remove the engine or gearbox to free the clutch plate from flywheel. Clean the flywheel face with abrasive paper.

16. TEST RUN CHECKS: Assuming these problems are sorted you should now take off on a short and gentle trial run, assessing the brake pedal for firmness, listening for unusual sounds, and checking that the car feels right.

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Desperado, thanks for posting that.

Anyone got any comments on draining out old fuel.
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