Footman James..............BYE BYE thread

I have been reliably informed, very politely that any additional classic insurance policy will only be underwritten if a vehicle is 30 yrs old or more. Having used this lot for years I am now cancelling everything as soon as another deal can be done. Basically they wont take on any classic cars now unless pover 30yrs old, so can anyone reccomed a multi car policy that will cover up to 3 cars, with pooled miles??

Thanks

Does this mean that if you already have your car insured with them, and it's under 30 years old, when you come to renew it they won't touch it until it is 30?

Or is just affecting their multi-car policy?

Rich

mcscrew said

 

Or is just affecting their multi-car policy?

Rich

if it does im off too :?

I had the Cabby (1989) and a Mk2 (1990) on a classic policy, sold the MK2 and wanted to put a 1985 Jetta on instead and they wouldn't take it. Any additional vehicle must be over 30 years. When I asked about the Cabby renewal in September they said it shouldn't be a problem, but, they can't guarantee it!!

So the reason I went with them in the first place now doesn't exist, but if I cancel the cheeky b**tards take a big fee and send me 10 bob back!!!

In summary;

If I stay with them I can't have an extra vehicle ( reason for using them in the first place)

If I leave them they pretty much keep all my money.

Great hey - I think everyone should be made aware!!!!

surley if they don't insure the majority of golfs then they shouldnt be on this site!!!!!

jellybelly said

surley if they don't insure the majority of golfs then they should be on this site!!!!!

Very true.

They had exclusivity with Mk1 Golf OC, then 2 other insurers were advertised - Adrian Flux and Premium Choice. If Footman James do leave, then there's always the other 2 to try?

paul_c said

They had exclusivity with Mk1 Golf OC, then 2 other insurers were advertised - Adrian Flux and Premium Choice. If Footman James do leave, then there's always the other 2 to try?

There is but I paid up front, and not due to renew until 6 months - no good unless I find a pre 1980 car :cry:

Who's the best ? :dontknow: footman 0R Fluxy ??
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As I posted on this section a few months ago Adrian Flux don't do a multi car policy and as i said then they need to use the Flux capacitor to get into the future of insurance and do multi car!!!

I'm not sure that FJ have been the same since they were taken over by Aon - the quality of service seems to have dropped, and refusing to insure classic cars on a classic policy seems very daft to me.

I will see what they say when my 29 year old GTI is up for renewal this summer, but if it's a no then it's no more business their way from me

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Rich

I am currently talking with the FJ rep to get clarification on what is going on.

He is not happy with the situation either and is having a meeting with his sales director on Wednesday.

He will come back to us with a definative answer after then.

All he could tell me today was that it is only certain models which they are no longer insuring. GTI's and GLI's are still ok at the moment.

IMHO, methinks that FJ are being prompted along this route by the bl**dy Europhiles again.  Reading this thread reminded me of something I read in "Practical Classics" Jan 2009 issue: "FIVA agrees "Historic" car definition".  Now as long as I can remember, a UK Classic car was at least 25 years old (and then there were Vintage and Veterans).  Indeed, our very own "Exemption" for road tax was based on an (rolling) age of 25 years until the greedy tw*ts in Govt decided they were losing too much munny and froze it after 1972!.

So now we have les ijots (FIVA - the Federation Internationale des Vehicles Anciens) representing "Historic" motoring in the EU deciding that they will have more "clout" in the EU parliament (to me it sounds like they won't need to fight as hard to "Protect" our interests) if the definition is based on an age of at least 30 yrs (apparently an arbitrary "political" number of years).  This definition is supported by the FBHVC (Federation of British Historic Vehicle Clubs) who are also supposed to look after our (UK) interests (like they did with the end of rolling tax road exeption and the protection of our classic against the Scrappage scheme!!!!) although they state that " we assure FBHVC members that we will continue to represent the interests of members whose vehicles don't fit into the FIVA classification".

So to me FJ appear to be basing their new requirements on the current FIVA definition (can we blame them ??) of a classic car and so maybe we should request FBHVC to go to work on FJ and the others redefine their cut back so it includes Mk1s.  I presume also that Series 1 owners should have no problems in this regard.


Plse read the "definition" in the attached link to a FBHVS Newsletter:

http://www.fbhvc.co.uk/2009/02/02/newsletter-no1-2009/


also FIVA (the organisation that cares !!!) site is linked but you'll have to troll through it to make any sense of it::

http://www.fiva.org/EN/General_Info.htm

Sorry for going on at length but I won't be having any trouble from FJ until September!!!

superworm said

IMHO, methinks that FJ are being prompted along this route by the bl**dy Europhiles again.  Reading this thread reminded me of something I read in "Practical Classics" Jan 2009 issue: "FIVA agrees "Historic" car definition".  Now as long as I can remember, a UK Classic car was at least 25 years old (and then there were Vintage and Veterans).  Indeed, our very own "Exemption" for road tax was based on an (rolling) age of 25 years until the greedy tw*ts in Govt decided they were losing too much munny and froze it after 1972!.

So now we have les ijots (FIVA - the Federation Internationale des Vehicles Anciens) representing "Historic" motoring in the EU deciding that they will have more "clout" in the EU parliament (to me it sounds like they won't need to fight as hard to "Protect" our interests) if the definition is based on an age of at least 30 yrs (apparently an arbitrary "political" number of years).  This definition is supported by the FBHVC (Federation of British Historic Vehicle Clubs) who are also supposed to look after our (UK) interests (like they did with the end of rolling tax road exeption and the protection of our classic against the Scrappage scheme!!!!) although they state that " we assure FBHVC members that we will continue to represent the interests of members whose vehicles don't fit into the FIVA classification".

So to me FJ appear to be basing their new requirements on the current FIVA definition (can we blame them ??) of a classic car and so maybe we should request FBHVC to go to work on FJ and the others redefine their cut back so it includes Mk1s.  I presume also that Series 1 owners should have no problems in this regard.


Plse read the "definition" in the attached link to a FBHVS Newsletter:

http://www.fbhvc.co.uk/2009/02/02/newsletter-no1-2009/


also FIVA (the organisation that cares !!!) site is linked but you'll have to troll through it to make any sense of it::

http://www.fiva.org/EN/General_Info.htm

Sorry for going on at length but I won't be having any trouble from FJ until September!!!

Just an observation some other insurance companies insure  "Modern Classics" is this the same as classics, and does the age limit of 30 years apply?

There is no official definition of a classic. Its up to each insurance company to say what they consider a "classic" in the sense that they might offer an insurance product marketed as a "classic policy". I have come across this before (for other cars) with other insurance companies where they judge its inclusion not only on the age, but what it is.

I guess they (not just FJ but many other insurance companies) take any 30+ year old car as a classic, and if younger they want to know the make/model and have a list of what is and isn't a classic. And that the Golf GTI is on this list, but the other models aren't.

Seems a reasonable approach after all. It has been a widely-known fact that you can get certain cars insured much more cheaply than otherwise you might, by saying its a "classic" and getting a classic policy. I guess from a business point of view, they never really earnt the insurer much profit???

I'll wait and see what the official response from FJ is on this one, will be interesting.

i have my 91 clipper insured with lancaster insurance. very good price etc but dont know if they do multi car, worth an ask tho

chriseee said

i have my 91 clipper insured with lancaster insurance. very good price etc but dont know if they do multi car, worth an ask tho

Adrian flux £135.00
Footman £168.00
Lancaster £105.00 + £15.00 extra for agreed valuation.
still looking…

Lancasters it is, beat Adrian Flux, Footman were a waste of time at £168.00
Peter Best wanted over £200.00

cool glad you got sorted!

chriseee said

cool glad you got sorted!

cheers :cheer:  :cheer: