Mk1 Golf GTi - 1.8 DX - Engine Mount Replacement

Hi all,

I noticed that my cabin rattles a lot during warm-up…upon further investigation I found that my engine mounts are worn.

Any recommendations on which type I should go for (looking for a complete set) and any useful instructions of replacing the mounts?

Thank you.

Well, over the years I have used Various ones, and I found that if I Sacrificed a often unused Socket I could extend the life of these guys.

I will flat tell you don't do POLY they will rattle your teeth, and your back bones effectively as they transfer all the vibration to your frame instead of eliminating it.

see: rattling | VW Vortex - Volkswagen Forum

There are Poly inserts that you can use but I have sooooo many old sockets that I use them.

But lately I have used a bit of the old mount to beef up the new one.



It will still go bad, but it won't allow the engine to drop when it does.

The sad part on replacing the engine mount is that you have to take it all apart, and well you might as well do the timing belt and the Water pump as well as it is easier to do….Some even do the intermediate shaft and the front Crank Seal as well but be warned, there are 2 types of Crank bolts a 6 sided Hex bolt as well as a 12pt bolt, and the tightening torques are vastly different….Make sure of the proper torque for your bolt, why?  because the 6pt is over 100 ft/lbs and the 12pt is only about 60….

I purchased a car and the owner said he just had the timing belt done by a Certified VW mech…..
He was certifiable alright to the loony bin.  He used 110 Ft/LBS on a 12pt bolt, which proceeded to drive it to the end of the Crank and bend the end, which eventually backed out 1/4 of a turn, and simulated a Crank shear…

Which caused me to Source a new Crank, as it took over 400 FT/Lbs of torque to get the bolt out, and that ruined the crank….which couldn't be Helicoiled….



The bolt that caused me Greif after only having the car for 4 weeks.


My old way of doing the beef.





How to change your mounts.
http://www.cabby-info.com/Files/EngineMounts.pdf


 

Thanks briano, I will stick to the idea of using the old mount to beef the new ones up. I found a supplier (B&B Components) on eBay, they are good as I used them before.

Is this ok or any other recommendations?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190855475995

Thanks

Sorry also forgot to ask, it is possible to remove the bush by cutting the rubber and hacksaw the ring off and pressing in the new bush using a vice? Saw on YouTube for another car not sure if possible on the Mk1 Golf?

Yes that is how I remove the old one to cut it with a hacksaw from the inside to the outer ring careful not to get in to the outer mount ring as if you do then when going in with the new you can break it on the cut….

I have replaced them in 4 different .

Freeze the mount for 4 days It shrinks.  
Remove the old mount I usually cut through about 3/4 of the old steel from the inside to almost the Mount bracket, I use a Chisel to get between the mount edge and the inner mount and fold it over or break it from the inside then remove.

I have used a press 10 ton to press them in and it is easy.

I have used a wheel hub press and got it mostly in and the used the press plates to Hammer with my BFH It woked well

I have used the Fire and Ice method which I perfected on my Diesel Golf…. That is to use a torch to get the thing cherrrrrrrrrry red.  Once it is cherry red pop the mount in (being sure it is oriented correctly ) and hammer it in then quickly quench it in Ice water…. So the rubber don't melt.

The 4th way was similar but I used my charcoal Grille and a leaf blower to get it red hot,, the issue is using golves and vice grips to hold the hot metal as you are beating the thing in place….   Fire, Ice, and Hammering the OLD SChool Blacksmithing way…. I have my man card stamped….  You have to be really quick so the rubber don't melt….or vulcanize…..

It only takes a few smacks of a BFH and the press plates as long as the mount is frozen…. so when I can't dig out my press, I do it the old fashioned way using my wheel bearing plates….I have a whole set…

I have taken them in the past and had them pressed in, I think it cost me a case of beer…..

Thanks for the info……called my mate and he has a press……will do the job next month as currently getting the kitchen done, since March, was hit with delays with gasworks and now nationwide shortage of multi finish plaster 😡

Will keep you posted on the update…..cheers