Rear Lap Belts & Kids??

Hi All,

Does anyone have a view on the safety of rear lap belts on a cabrio and car seats for kids? I am looking for a cab & didn't want this to be an issue after the purchase.

I have a 1990 t25 camper that has one normal seat belt & one lap belt in the back and it doesn't worry me too much but it would be interesting to hear comments/experience.

Thanks.

Matt

Some car seats are fine with lap belts - usually says on them - typically seats for 1-4yr olds.

Rear facing seats for baby's usually need a 3 point belt.

Older kids with bigger seats or boosters really need 3 point - although I remember rattling around in my mum and dad's car with no belts when I was a bairn!!

As a follow on we are developing a 3 point bolt in kit for the cab - still in protoype stage.

Cheers

Rich

You got any ideas for timing yet Rich?

defo want it when its done.

Cheers
Steve

Hi Rich,

Thanks for that. I also remember fighting my brother on the rear footwell as my dad is doing 80mph on the motorway!! How things have changed!

Ditto on the timing question for the full production of the prototype? Do you have any idea yet as to what it may cost?

Matt

i have the rear 3 point belts from a pug 306 in the back of my cab super easy to fit and work well, didn't like the lap ones didn't think they were safe enough.

Mattster said

Hi Rich,

Ditto on the timing question for the full production of the prototype? Do you have any idea yet as to what it may cost?

Matt

Too early to advise timing and price at the mo…..

terry1788 said

i have the rear 3 point belts from a pug 306 in the back of my cab super easy to fit and work well, didn't like the lap ones didn't think they were safe enough.

Could you do a 'How To' on the subject for other members please?

Dan

yep will do, in middle of house move at mo so it may be a couple of days if thats ok.

Would really appreciate details of the pug belts swap, not very happy with prospect of my kids only having 'fair ground' ride belts 8O
Already ahving trouble convincing HID that the bin linner in the glove box is an air bag!

I've found this:

http://www.vwgolfmk1.info/rsb/Rsb.pdf

Also have a kit ready to go but im trying to find if it needs to be approved as i dont fancy getting sue'd! :cry:

Or if i can sell it as a non sefety device and use a loop hole?

Mattster said

I also remember fighting my brother on the rear footwell as my dad is doing 80mph on the motorway!! How things have changed!

Matt

….THAT brings back memories….6 of us little kids in the back of a Humber Snipe Estate, no rear seats - just boarded over, TRYING to play marbles while being driven down country lanes!!!
Seems all the fun of being a kid has been taken away…

The only rear 3 point belts I've seen are Moorey's US spec ones, They are pretty neat now he's done some finishing touches.

He brings his kids to meets with them and I don't think he has any trouble with the car seats.

http://www.vwgolfmk1.o…60480&highlight=rear+belt

Yeah I had found that too which is a start, but would still like to see the pug solution that Terry1788 mentioned, I know moving house was mentioned but how important can that really be as a reason for not sorting out more important dub issues  :roll:

Have found that secron do kits that might suit see

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SSB101-INERTIA-REEL-SEAT-BELT-SECURON-MG-MIDGET_W0QQitemZ250524482778QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item3a546c3cda

using the above location advice sheet might work for this kit!

thoughts anyone, my only concern would be that that top mounting where the real would go is not that strong and would certanily not be ideal if an adults weight was being restrained, I'm not sure about MOT requirements but I know from rally car harness systems that it has to be attached to part of the chassis or the floor with suitable reinforcing plates.