? what other 80s cars could take gti
Posted
#701171
(In Topic #84575)
Old Timer
? what other 80s cars could take gti
<a><img></a><a href="Login to a private Photobucket.com album
Posted
Settling In
Capri
George "Look Bungle's going out!"
Zippy "Well put some more petrol on him then!"
Zippy "Well put some more petrol on him then!"
Posted
Old Timer
<a><img></a><a href="Login to a private Photobucket.com album
Posted
Settling In
Posted
Settled In
Sunbeam Lotus would spank a GTi
XR3i would be slower, but the RS Turbo would b e quicker.
Astra GTE quicker.
MG Meastro 2.0 quicker but the old 1600 slower.
205 GTI 1.6 & 1.9 should be faster…
There were lots of little pocket rockets that are all starting to gain big cult followings…
And I hate to say it, but I recon the Nova will start to shine soon. It's past the CHAV stage and moving into the enthusiast stage..
TT
Posted
Old Timer
I used to own a mk1 - well I've had 2 actually - YDU 720X & SMU 420Y. Currently I drive an 98 Scotia White Mitsubishi Evolution V RS…. fancy getting another mk1 someday
Posted
Local Hero
Posted
Old Timer
<a><img></a><a href="Login to a private Photobucket.com album
Posted
Old Timer
I used to own a mk1 - well I've had 2 actually - YDU 720X & SMU 420Y. Currently I drive an 98 Scotia White Mitsubishi Evolution V RS…. fancy getting another mk1 someday
Posted
Old Timer
<a><img></a><a href="Login to a private Photobucket.com album
Posted
Old Timer
divweir said
cheers kins you made my nite
Sorry mate. :cry: Hey we don't need to be 1st… we are the coolest. 8)
I used to own a mk1 - well I've had 2 actually - YDU 720X & SMU 420Y. Currently I drive an 98 Scotia White Mitsubishi Evolution V RS…. fancy getting another mk1 someday
Posted
Settled In
My ford Scorpio is quicker to 60 and faster overall than my m8's MK2 16V
What they did have was gr8 build, reliably, handling . It was the full package that everyone else struggled to do back then..
TT
Posted
Local Hero
Posted
Old Timer
paul_c said
Simca 100 is a new one on me! Are you sure it was hot?
In it's day I guess it was.
I used to own a mk1 - well I've had 2 actually - YDU 720X & SMU 420Y. Currently I drive an 98 Scotia White Mitsubishi Evolution V RS…. fancy getting another mk1 someday
Posted
Settling In
The original Mk1 Astra GTE was 1.8litres and 115bhp, and preceded the 1.8 Golf GTI, so for a while that was seen as king by some. That engine found it's way into the Cavalier, and started the race for ever faster rep mobiles.
The 1.6 Peugoet 205 GTI debued in '84, and was a gem, with superb handling and a strong engine. A 205 will out drive any standard GTI down a country lane, but it is doubtful if it would be any quicker than a fettled MK1 Golf. Of course the 1.9 205 GTI with 130 bhp was a fine car. And 205's were well made - the fact that fewer survive today is more to do with the Golf's fan base than the 205's build quality (better than a Renault 5).
The only MK3 Escort worth a mention is the RS1600i, if only for it's rarity.
By Ford's own admission the XR3 and XR3i were their attempt at recreating the Golf, and they never quite got it right. The RS1600i was a harder, less compromised car built for homologation. The RS Turbo, again was a harder car and has it's place, but had it's issues like torque steer and rust.
The Fiat Strada 130 and Abarth used the famous Fiat twin cam (another favourite in motorsport), the Polo class 1.3 Mk1 Renault 5 Alpine/Gordini and Gordini Turbo (110bhp) and the 1.4 MK2 R5 Turbo - all interesting cars, but how many are left?. Of course the mid engined R5 turbo 1 and turbo 2 are in a different league, built for homolagation, and are very expensive collectable cars now.
MG Maestro 1.6 r series and s series and the 2.0l o series all but got used up in the Maestro Challenge, but the last MG Maestro was Turboed (from the Montego) and is worth a second glance.
When the MK1 Golf first saw the light of day in 1974, Italy's Alfa Sud (with 1.2/1.3 and 1.5 boxer engines) was perhaps it's nearest rival, in terms of size and ability. Britain had the Allegro (1100/1300 and 1500/1750) which was not a hatch, and France had the Citroen GS fastback 4 door saloon which had a 1.3 litre boxer engine (it was actually a British Leyland design study of the 1100/1300 replacement, cast off in favour of what became the Allegro).
The MK1 Jetta catered for the rear wheel drive saloon Escort, Marina/Ital, Dolomite, Cavalier buyer, and the Scirocco was up against the Alfa Sprint, Capri and Manta.
That was just about it, so you can judge for yourself how ground breaking the simple MK1 package actually was.
Of course, pretty soon after (by 1978), the Fiat Strada and Talbot Horizon (car of the year 1978) were launched. The Astra arrived in '79 and the front wheel drive Escort hatch in 1980 - six years after the Golf, and the Maestro came in 1983. VW had everyone else in a sweat.
The Golf has been blamed for the demise of the MGB (how come the MX5 is so popular?), but BL did that by giving the TR7 preferential treatment in America. (The MG owners club is the latest in the world.)
Many folk had their reasons for not choosing a Veedub, but the fact remains, like old MG's, old VW's don't die…
Posted
Settled In
TT
Posted
Settling In
Posted
Old Timer
the most noteable quote is "The design most often considered to have started the hot hatch genre is the 1977 Volkswagen Golf GTI" although the article considers the Simca 1100 to technically be the first.
so . . .
The Golf may not have been the first, but it was the golf that started the term 'hot hatch' so IMO as the term didn't exist before the golf, any cars before it that fit the genre can't be considered hot hatches as the genre of car didn't technically exist then!! :mrgreen:
Make you feel better thinking of it that way divweir? :mrgreen:
Mike.
1983 White cabriolet GTi
Posted
Settled In
stephentazz said
The first hot hatch - Austin A40 with a Mini Cooper S 1275 twin SU carb A series engine. I bet someone did it (BMC didn't) - it would have been rude not to…
downton A40 farina.
Posted
Old Timer
1983 MK1 PIRELLI EDITION
Alpine White LHD ("SOLD")
Alpine White LHD ("SOLD")
0 guests and 0 members have just viewed this: None.