1.1 WIRING LOOM FOR 1.6CARB??

Sup guys… Can some1 please tell me if its possible to use a 1.1 loom from a 78 3door golf on a 1.6carb 3door golf??I figured seeing that both is carb there isnt any difference except for the capacity of the lump.i got  a new(OLD AND RUSTED  ) 3door mk1 to toy around with but no loom(while the other is being restored from the cRUST) but not 1 wire in sight but i do have the complete 1.1 loom and 1.6carb lump which i wana shove in there and mess up with!! ANYONE??  :dontknow: please help

Thanks  

I'm no expert but if you can't use it straight off (ie they're not identical) then they're going to be fairly close, and one can be adapted to the other. I doubt the 1.1 had a rev counter or its associated wiring, but the 1.6 does. In fact, the instrument cluster will be the main area of concern.

ahhh thanks paul & YOU are the DUB EXPERT!! So fare to say… i can stuff the rev counter perhaps?? :?  and just run it like the 1.1 did? :dontknow:  THANKS AGAIN

Which instrument cluster do you have? And is the wiring the same era (continental (pill style) fuses in the fusebox, or blade fuses approx 1983 onwards). Also series 1 and 2 dashboards are different, I reckon the plug on the back would be incompatible between them.

I'm not an expert because I don't really have that much experience with small block electics! So just suggesting vague general things to check.

I still have both clusters, the 1.1 without rev counter and the dash, also the 1.6 with rev counter and dash.  Im not so sure about the fuses though but if i do remember correctly its the pill ones.and i MIGHT have  fusebox from a 1.6carb laying around somewhere :?  seems like it would be better to get the 1.6 complete loom coz now im FUSE :dontknow: D THANKS P

it will be pretty much there, might have to extend the wiring to the dizzy hall sensor (if fitted, wont a 78 1.1 be points ignition?) also oil pressure switches and water temp wires prob wont reach.
the rev counter signal wire should be there, as it is still needed for the oil pressure warning circuit to work, unless the earlier MK1s only had a low pressure warnign switch and not a high pressure warning?

8O Sooo fair to say… it will perhaps work with a few alterations? But will the fusebox connectors be the same? :dontknow: can just extend the oil pressure switches and water temp wires to reach rite?and doesnt the rev counter use a complete connector with alot of pins instead of 1 wire like the oil pressure warning circuit that u mentioned? and i believe its low pressure warning switch… speaking under correction :?  could be wrong.  Thanx again 4 the help guys  
Appreciate it

if the fusebox is the same yeah it'll plug in, i believe the earlier fuseboxes were wired differently to the later ones, plus theres the S2 blade fusebox on the very late models. as you say yeah just extewnd the sensor wires that dont reach.
on the MK1 petrol models there is only 1 rev counter wire from the coil, both the rev counter and oil warning circuit are then spliced into this wire. However the wire might not be there on the 1.1 loom if as you say it only has 1 oil pressure switch, but I dont know for sure

YEAH THANX FOR DA INFO!! im gonna check it out 2nite and bother you again on monday lol :roll: I have the MK2 haynes manual and i saw theres diagrams for 1.1 and 1.6 carb aswell, are these the same as the mk1?? i didnt know of a 1.1 mk2 8O or maybe they refer to the mk1 also? :dontknow: wana start messing around with that rusted old mk1

depends what fusebox you have in your golf! if its one of the glass/ceramic jobbers the mk2 manual is next to useless, as all those diagrams are for the S2 blade fusebox and the later 90spec mk2 fusebox which is different again. ideally you want the brown mk1 haynes manual, which is one of the best haynes manuals I've ever reads and covers all the mk1 fuseboxes regardless of type!

thing is… I cant get 1 in my hands  still searching the net for a pdf form but no luck. only mk2 available.and i stay in a crap place!! I.E. South Africa

if i was in your shoes I would be tempted to rewire the car using later stuff from a scirocco, a few edits would need doing here & there but it would be more modern and at least the mk2 haynes would cover some of it!  trouble is the mk2 haynes is pretty poor, there are loads of missing wiring diagrams and it doesnt even mention the changed fusebox in 1990, even though it has a load of 90spec wiring diagrams. then you look at these and have no pictures of the rear of the fusebox to compare them to!

:cry: if only we HAD rocco's here!!  i think i should start sourcing a 1.6 loom instead? dont u think? my options here are limited :cry:

ah! maybe a later mk1 or cab then?
mk2 would be kinda close but the trouble is the fusebox on the mk1 is on the passenger side, and driver side on a MK2.

all depends how good you are with the wiring side of things really.  A MK2 carb engine managment loom should work ok, combined with the MK1 1.1 sensor loom. the managment bit doesnt run inside the car, just from hall sensor -> coil -> tci and a wire to the battery -ve

ok its monday and im back Jonny… with a loom from a 1983 1.6carb 4door actualy.just grabbed it from a mate it has everything on it but i didnt have time to take a gud look    Girlfriend problems to rewire lol lol