Which would you have?

Both continental, both same age (+/- 1 year), both similar bhp output, both low mileage, both similar asking price. But which to choose?
(for this exercise ignore the bonkers mutilation inflicted on the Mancland GTI)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vw-golf-gti-campaign-mk1/312544196486?hash=item48c515f786:g:0jUAAOSwM1FcmovT

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1985-B-reg-Peugeot-205-GTi-1-6-Phase-1-only-32-067-miles-no-sunroof/264256147091?hash=item3d86e4ce93:g:X5kAAOSw9y1cmmBx
 

In all honesty probably the pug but they are both massively overpriced

Which is why the Golf at least has already been listed before and not sold

Pug for me. There is all kinds of wrong on that golf. The pug looks showroom and very straight. But both a bit steep. Personally I like that prices are rising it helps me justify the spend on my golf.


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Peugeot for me but would much rather it was the 1.9 and not in black (I don't like black cars)


Something like this.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1989-PEUGEOT-205-1-9-GTI-Significant-spares-package-Original-example/303105969910?hash=item4692860ef6:g:fIcAAOSwJgBcl1d3

Think I'd go for the Pug even if the Golf was molestation free.

Or what I have seriously been considering is bailing out of the VW scene were cars are now getting up into the 10s of £thousands and even minor parts (wheel centre caps, bits of interior trim etc) cost £hundreds and £hundreds.

Been looking at early 2001 BMW minis. HQ/Press cars (reg Y— OBL) and dealer display cars (Y reg) produced months before the official July 2001 launch are available from a few hundred quid upwards. Slightly later '51' reg  from a few hundred to around £1,500 for nice reasonable mileage Coopers . All have PAS and most A/C. Even basic 'Ones' have 90bhp 16v engines. There is still a scene with clubs and meets.

Looking at the MOT history of a few cars that I have been interested in it never mentions rot within a prescribed area so no multi thousand pound weldathons and resprays required. Rusty brake pipes and headlight adjustment about bad as it gets (prob due to the lights being in the bonnet and it moving and getting slammed shut?).

Parts are at give away prices compared to VW, full set of undamaged seats £60, factory CD player £8. Basically like MK1 prices but with a nought knocked off the end.

The do suffer from known gearbox and PAS faults but these are now well understood and fixable for £250-£500.

Because they are not worth £10,000+ and they look still current and don't stand out you can park them anywhere and not worry about them getting trolly rash or keyed.

Usable as a daily driver or weekend toy and prob at the bottom of the depreciation curve and in another 10 years will be where MK1/MK2 Golfs are now, i.e. £10,000+

I think you are probably on to something there but with the right spec.

I can see the early supercharged cooper S being worth money in 10yrs but a normal 1.6 cooper I doubt

Bit like when a 4 door mk1 comes up now, they are still priced at more than they are realistically worth but are cheap compared to anything with a gti badge

I reckon the mk1 audi TT 225bhp is one to buy now, dont imagine they will get much cheaper to be honest and will surely be a cult car in another 10yrs

Yes agree that the sporty ones will prob turn out to be the most valuable in the future (like most car types) and that the Cooper S is up there with TT and A3 20v turbos as bang-per-$buck mega bargains.

Still think early 2001 Y Reg 'Ones' and vanilla Coopers will do fine and are much easier and cheaper to keep/run (cheaper to buy, tax, insure, mpg, tyres, service etc)
 

That Campaign has been up for sale for ages, not surprising looking at that fuel filler modification. I have a feeling that was a race car at some time having looked into  it a bit more in the past. just look at the MOT history a very abused looking car for such a low mileage.

 

Interesting to note the idea about the Mini's.

Bought the wife one the other month. A 55 plate (so still the original shape 'mk1' mini), copper convertible. I did it as her old Arosa was about dead and her mk1 golf cabby probably isn't going to get done this year.

It was only £1500 and i reckoned it would still be worth that in  a couple of years. Plus safer, AC, power steering, all electrics etc etc etc.

Watch out for the Cooper S models as the superchargers need rebuilds at about 100k and they use oil like nothing on earth. Apparently BWM say that a pint of oil every 500 - 1000  miles is 'acceptable and within specs' ! Seems like a lot of oil to 'use' in that mileage  

I think all car prices are nuts these days. Maybe it's cos I'm getting older and still think that a road ready 'banger' can be had for £300 with 12 months ticket and will last a couple of years. But apparently not  

A decent 'retro' seems to be around 2k - 3k and for something unusual or high spec seems to be around 5k.

Worlds gone nuts.

Plus don't forget in a 'few' years petrol will be harder to come by than rocking horse poo and road tax will be thousands (they'll revoke the free tax thing) and unless it's electric or hybrid we'll be seen as bunny killers too and all 'old' cars will be in museums or be worth nothing.

Just a couple of happy thoughts for you  

Ian

I would not own either
I love my 92, n 93 cabbies….
I would own what I saw driving the other day, a 53 MG TD….always has a soft spot for those… or my 58 Bug-eye…

I suppose I will long be deceased by the time Dino-fuel is wiped off the earth or legislatively reduced from use and I will be glad to have been gone, as the Smell of High Performance engines reving, the Sound of a well tuned MG down shifting in a Tunnel take me back and will be missed by all who have never heard or smelled that wonderful smell or sound…

What fun would it be to watch a battery operated Le'Mans…or Indy 500….nothing to hear or smell but a whine and ozone. That my friends is disheartening.