83 Cabrio roof leak
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83 Cabrio roof leak
So have a mohair roof on my cab fitted earler this year but had leaking from the handles so followed the guide on here about renewing the gaskets which I completed perfectly however with the recent poor weather i see the leak is back on both sides!!! The windows seem to be meeting the rubbers fine at the top but yet the problem persists. Difficult to see where its coming from when pouring water on it as it comes through the handles. Happens when stationairy so not a wind issue.
Anybody experienced this?
Anybody experienced this?
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Local Hero
Hmmmm!
I had the problem but mine was due to the hood being old, as they get porous and the water seeps through and collects in the frame arms (like a channel) at each side and run downwards towards the handle area and thats where the water leaks from.
Did you put some sillicone along the front 2 metal seal holders before you replaced the seals, especially around the front first fixing screw hole? you usually come back a couple of inches.
I had the problem but mine was due to the hood being old, as they get porous and the water seeps through and collects in the frame arms (like a channel) at each side and run downwards towards the handle area and thats where the water leaks from.
Did you put some sillicone along the front 2 metal seal holders before you replaced the seals, especially around the front first fixing screw hole? you usually come back a couple of inches.
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No just followed the guide on here and didnt think of sealant. Must take a closer look and follow the rust
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Noticed on a 90 cabrio today that the seal set up where the window meets the top of the A pillar seems better than my 83. Am i missing a bit or is it just an upgrade? See pics of mine:
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Local Hero
Mine was doing the same.
Had the roof adjusted, silicone added to the front part of the frame and all seems ok now.
Also the front part of your roof (where it sits on top of the front window) isnt fitted right.
Its meant to sit flush onto the window seal.
Had the roof adjusted, silicone added to the front part of the frame and all seems ok now.
Also the front part of your roof (where it sits on top of the front window) isnt fitted right.
Its meant to sit flush onto the window seal.
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Cheers Norm. Excuse my stupidity but where exactly does the silicone go?
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Local Hero
Hi fella,
I did explain in my reply.
You need to remove the first 2 rubber seals that contact the widows when you close the roof, you will of allready done this as you have changed the foam gasket seals.
The sillicone is applied around the first front screw hole and back approx 2 inches.
I would say your roof is poorly fitted as Norm points out it does not sit flush with the top of the screen.
To be fair it's shockingly bad fit.
It need re adjusting to fit properly, no wonder it's leaking fella, there is no seal between the roof and the header seal.
I did explain in my reply.
You need to remove the first 2 rubber seals that contact the widows when you close the roof, you will of allready done this as you have changed the foam gasket seals.
The sillicone is applied around the first front screw hole and back approx 2 inches.
I would say your roof is poorly fitted as Norm points out it does not sit flush with the top of the screen.
To be fair it's shockingly bad fit.
It need re adjusting to fit properly, no wonder it's leaking fella, there is no seal between the roof and the header seal.
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Local Hero
If you are unsure pm me and I will send you further info to assist in doing the sillicone.
It's easy just knowing where it goes.
It's easy just knowing where it goes.
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roof leak
wish id known bout this silicone, just done my front gaskets and still have leak, followed guide on here wish it had stated bout silicone, oh well try again lol
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just to let you all know ive solved my roof leak whooopeeee
i simply removed the new gasket seals i had fitted, which were still leaking. i then ran a generous amount of silicone all the way up the line of the gasket and refitted the gasket and screwed down to the silicone bead and hey presto no more leak
thx everyone
i simply removed the new gasket seals i had fitted, which were still leaking. i then ran a generous amount of silicone all the way up the line of the gasket and refitted the gasket and screwed down to the silicone bead and hey presto no more leak
thx everyone
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Old Timer
Sorted my leaking roof on the weekend, New foam seals and screws from vw. Also its well worth re sticking the roof to the frame underneath the seal as i found out when i had to take it all apart again on sunday as i still had a drip from the handle area.
Also covered it with 2 coats of Fabsil too, Didn't take much as its a vinyl roof so the 1L tub i got should last a long time.
All fine now though so no more wet legs.
Also covered it with 2 coats of Fabsil too, Didn't take much as its a vinyl roof so the 1L tub i got should last a long time.
All fine now though so no more wet legs.
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Local Hero
You really need to check the condition of the sealant under the front header seal too.
Fabsil is meant for fabrics and not for plastic coated fabrics.
Grangers do not reccomned using Fabsil on a vynil roof.
The solvents in their product can attack the plasticisers in the Vynil causing delamination.
I got some the other day for my Mohair roof which was just soaking the water up.
The manufacturers of the hood materials Harrtz, recomend using Ragg Topp products.
Aerospace 303 is recomended for vynil roofs.
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chortle
Fabsil is meant for fabrics and not for plastic coated fabrics.
Grangers do not reccomned using Fabsil on a vynil roof.
The solvents in their product can attack the plasticisers in the Vynil causing delamination.
I got some the other day for my Mohair roof which was just soaking the water up.
The manufacturers of the hood materials Harrtz, recomend using Ragg Topp products.
Aerospace 303 is recomended for vynil roofs.
cheers
chortle
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Old Timer
Don't think i have much to worry about there is a good 25 years worth of other products on my roof to protect it from the solvents, including some kind of dye used to change it from the original 'CC' Blue to Black much to my annoyance but there is no way i can get it back to the original blue anymore.
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Local Hero
Ah ha I see.
Can I ask did you get your car from E bay?
There was one listed as a Cocco Channel which they are not. Still a myth that gets perpetuated.
Just known as the Christmas Cab.
Proper Name Lady Charme, Lady Sunshine and Mister Moon depending on body colour and trim.
I like the CC and looked at a couple a couple of years back.
There was some CC bits on E bay recenlty the CC headliner and seat cloths too.
I wonder what they used to colour the roof with?
Reckon it would be a hassle to clean it off, again you would need a strong solvent, that won't attack the plastic underneath. Xylene for instance.
Can I ask did you get your car from E bay?
There was one listed as a Cocco Channel which they are not. Still a myth that gets perpetuated.
Just known as the Christmas Cab.
Proper Name Lady Charme, Lady Sunshine and Mister Moon depending on body colour and trim.
I like the CC and looked at a couple a couple of years back.
There was some CC bits on E bay recenlty the CC headliner and seat cloths too.
I wonder what they used to colour the roof with?
Reckon it would be a hassle to clean it off, again you would need a strong solvent, that won't attack the plastic underneath. Xylene for instance.
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Old Timer
Well my brother got it in about 1996 and he moved to Australia about 5 years ago and left the car for me, I have used it on and off over the years but i decided to use it full time now so its getting a lot of TLC at the moment.
I dont know what they used but its a shame because its the original roof all 'CC' embossed, when i was cleaning it bits of the blue appeared but i think its just some kind of back to blck style coating, I have seen dye on ebay for Vinyl so i may end up having to dye it black again. I'd like to keep it on as long as possible because i wont ever get a 'cc' roof again.
wouldn't mind some spare seat covers though missed that on ebay.
I dont know what they used but its a shame because its the original roof all 'CC' embossed, when i was cleaning it bits of the blue appeared but i think its just some kind of back to blck style coating, I have seen dye on ebay for Vinyl so i may end up having to dye it black again. I'd like to keep it on as long as possible because i wont ever get a 'cc' roof again.
wouldn't mind some spare seat covers though missed that on ebay.
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Local Hero
The one on E bay was listed as a CC, but it did not have any of the CC refinements.
Is yours a CC?
Should be around 85-86?
Yep it's a shame to me as I like things standard, but everyone has there own styles as to what they want to do to a car that reflects thier personaltiies, etc that's what makes all the cars so good.
There is a headliner CC and sun visors with CC on E Bay at the moment. Just put in MK1 Golf CC, should get you a hit.
Is yours a CC?
Should be around 85-86?
Yep it's a shame to me as I like things standard, but everyone has there own styles as to what they want to do to a car that reflects thier personaltiies, etc that's what makes all the cars so good.
There is a headliner CC and sun visors with CC on E Bay at the moment. Just put in MK1 Golf CC, should get you a hit.
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Old Timer
Yeah mine is a CC as confirmed by the log book, 1986 reg plus i still have all the original cc parts on it apart from the external decals as they were removed by an idiot who i had respray the car. They removed them and destroyed them at the same time despite me insisting they were left unharmed.
Car is still in its original colour Alpine white, i have the original bumpers in my garage as my brother fitted it with a big bumper kit years ago.
I have seen some of the 'CC's on ebay and when you see the pics they have been completely raped of all 'CC' embossed interior parts making them just a normal cabrio.
Car is still in its original colour Alpine white, i have the original bumpers in my garage as my brother fitted it with a big bumper kit years ago.
I have seen some of the 'CC's on ebay and when you see the pics they have been completely raped of all 'CC' embossed interior parts making them just a normal cabrio.
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Local Hero
It's tricky really as things like the roof deteriorate and need replacing at some point.
The stuff comes up from time to time on E bay, just a case of having a look see.
The stuff comes up from time to time on E bay, just a case of having a look see.
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