1.8 20 vt engine swap what needed?

Have been offered a audi 1.8 t complete car cheap was wondering what else i needed to put into my mk1 gti before i decide to go ahead or not any help appreciated

Lots of patience and a fair bit of money for other things like D/SHafts, Brakes, Exhaust, ECU ( stand alone or factory that will need working ) silicone pipes, boost gauges, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc.

I have just done one so im in a fairly good postition to tell you.


Good luck.

what can i use off the audi and what do i need to buy new?

hi mate i ve jus dun this.. and i wish i never started tbh.. if u got the money thn crack on bu if ur strugaling thn i wudnt.. mines jus an endless pit at the moment!!

but any way

i ve got the AUM engine out of the golf mk4…. all i used from the car waws the engine and box and wiring harness…

u will need 2 run a standalone ecu enless u take all the wiring from the audi and place in2 the golf..

u need 100mm drive shafts and if u have the o2j box u need to buy mk4 tdi flanges i got a part number sumwhere but its dealer only and about £120

brakes u could use the 1s of the audi if u can make them fit..

i would make ur own water hoses and boost pipes using samco and get the boost pipes from ebay i got a universal 4 70quid

fnt mont intercooler..

atm i am using a standard mk1 gti fule pump. seams 2 b fine every1 thinks they r..

umm cnt really think of what else there is..

any questions jus ask

cheers was planning on using audi clocks and loom and ecu if poss can i use the gearbox from audi? would i be able to use audi exhaust manifold or do i have to fabricate one? what about engine mounts can you get them or do you need to make them ? sorry for all the questions just want to make sure i can do it before i commit

d.w man i was the sme… bout time i payed a bit of knowlage back lol ……

i got my mounts from ebay.. jus type in 20v mk1 golf mounts or sumet like that…  i used the origanal box from the mk4 golf cuase its strong enough..  it fits and runs perfectly with the cable changer 2 the hole in the floor for the origanl gear changers on the mk1

yer u cna use the 20v manifold however u do need 2 get a new downpipe made!  i just got the whole exhaust system made by a stainless steel place in cardiff called pro speed exhausts..  £300 for a full system.. and sounds amazing :p

so if the whole car was £ 300 would you you go down that route for the hassle

yer man bu jus b prepared to spend another 2 - 4 k like i ve spent £7k and its no where near on the road yet

£700 or £7000

7000 lol

what the hell have you spent £7000 on not just the  engine

mostly lol…    i have got a qpeng ecu.. ko3s turbo  ap coilovers, fully polobushed suspension quaif quick rack, eibach anti roll bars, 280mm 4 pot willwood brakes,  fully ajustable brake bias pedal box fmic hydrolic handbrake  sparco pro 3000 buckts 19 row oil cooler lol plenty haha

shit mate only wanna wang the engine in and get a ecu remap keeping the rest of car as standard as i can that must be one serious mk1 you got any pics?

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=3441143&op=1&o=global&view=global&subj=533510779&id=533510779&fbid=181913390779#!/album.php?aid=376019&id=602315454

duno if tht link will work or not

no dont work so how much you reckon you could do it if you didnt want to go crazy just want a quick mk1 that i can use whenever i need to

prob do it 4 bout 2k if not less bu u r guna wnt sum decent brakes

i think if doing yourself you could probably do for around £2000 - £2500

Engine          £600-£800
Mounts         £180
Suspension   £300
Brakes (Vauxhall Conversion inc disc etc) £150
Pipe work     £100
Exhaust        £300
ECU (standalone) £600+
Polybushes    £100 (?)
Bits and bobs £200

So comes in at £2500 ish  you have to realise though there is always something you forget that you need.

Also it all depends on what and how far you want to go.

My "Build" breaks down to this………….

Engine + G/Box + Qpeng £1200
Suspension (KWs V1 Inlox)  £630
Exhaust  £ 250
Corrado G/Selector £50.00
100mm D/Shafts + New Rubbers etc £100
FMIC (Sprinter) £60.00
Spal 12" Fan £60.00
MK2 Rad £20.00
Guages (Boost,Oil,Oil Temp + Senders etc) £70.00
Gaskets,Nuts, Bolts etc £50.00
Remap (Qpeng) £50.00
Tacho Box (On Order) £50.00
Short Shift £60.00

So thats £2650 obviously i could have saved money on suspension for instance but why scrimp ?

That price does not include the massive amounts of Fish N Chips and Tea and Biscuits for my lovely Club Members that have helped me for free also some parts i got off Club members at a cheaper price and some even for Free !!!

My car cost £2800 so plus that im in at £5390 alos i probably have forgoton stuff so add another £300 im still under my £6000 goal i set myself.

You need to work it all out and not be one of the many "unfinished projects" you see everywhere, i still believe if you pick the correct car to start with and you shop around you can achieve the goal and in the future you should hardly lose any money, I hav already been offered £5500 for my car but there is NO WAY im selling after all the late nights and work that has gone into it but as you can see i would not lose a penny which is great stuff, Yes you could buy one done but that is missing the point, I had NO KNOWLEDGE on cars in general before i started this and i have most of that left !!!!!!

But joking aside i have learnt loads we managed to achieve getting the car on the road in 10 sessions down the garage spread out over a 6 months, If we had all the correct parts there im sure we could have done it all in a 3 or 4 goes but i was not bothered as it was all over Winter we did and lots of times working into the night.

Like i have said before i could not have achieved this without my wonderfull mates i have made in my local club, we have had lots of laughs along the way and very few tears ( infact none ) when things go wrong (which they will) i have found it very very funny infact my club mates looked more worried than i ever did.

Good luck with what ever you decide mate.


Adam

is there any reason why i cant use the standard ecu + loom or would it have to be stadalone ecu?

People do use standard ECU but you need to get them sent away to get the immobilser "defeated" i believe.

tom1 said

Have been offered a audi 1.8 t complete car cheap was wondering what else i needed to put into my mk1 gti before i decide to go ahead or not any help appreciated

speak to jamiegolf on this site he lives in wales and runsa garage he may be able to advise you :wink:  :wink: