morning start

hi,
i need some advice please, i have a 1992 golf clipper auto 1.8 carb. standard set up.

in the morning ( now it hass become a little chilly) my car seems to struggle.

it will start no problem from cold (one or two engine cranks), but when i blip the trottle the car will cut out, the same thing happens when i pull away depressing the accelerator. I overcome this by selecting D and letting the car pull off without pressing the accelerator. after about 5mins the car is fine.

once the car is up to running temp, eg if i go to the petrol station. the car will retart wihin 1 engin crank no prob. however with the car warmed up if i leave for 15minutes and above the car needs 5-6 engines cranks to start

the cutting out symptom is only in the morning or in cold temperatures

thanks

Kiley

sounds like you need to check your autochoke. (Assuming it still has it)

Sounds like the cold start issue is a choke one - it the original carb still fitted?

Hot start could be a mixture issue.

Probably worth checking the choke operation and doing and engine tune up.

Cheers

Rich

And remember to do a nice little write up on the fix as mine does exactly the same thing! Starts great, leave a few seconds and initial revs drop off and starts to run lumpy for about 5 mins. Also takes a few more cranks to fire when hot but wasn't too bothered about that one as it always starts - just takes an extra second maybe.

hi look at my thead from a month ago it might be usefull

http://www.vwgolfmk1.org.uk/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=45456&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

            cheers paul

used to have similar problem on my 1982 mk1 gl, removed my perberg carb
and fitted a Weber carb with manual choke, no more chugging in the morning got mine for about 260 -280 cant remember off the top of my head, but it also gives a lot better performance also, worth the investment

thanks for all the suport guys,

novocaine -  where do i start if i want to check the the auto choke? are there any quick tests? i concider my self a good mechainc but this is my first car with a carb on it. (i'm a MK1 Mr2 enthusiast)

PMW123 - did you get your 38mpg gallon after you fitted a new carb? if you did than it;s well worth spending 150squid

ta

hi
   might not quite get 38mpg but it runs like a dream,dont bother with the thirsty webers go with this bloke he knows his stuff.starts first time every time.
        cheers paul
ps also comes back with a check list of all the testing done and looks like new,if webers where that good vw would have fitted them as standard

there is something else i have noticed. yesterday (one of the coldest mornings since april) i started the car fine and left the engine running whilst i scraped the ice from the windows. during this time ( aprox 2 mins) the car warmed up enough to pull away ok.

Also, during engine warm up, ie before the needle on the gauge reaches the first line. When turing right, especially on roundabouts the car seem to act like it has run out of fuel. could these be problems be connected? i think they are both carb related

 i don't want to start a weeber / pierburg debate, but  i agree with the original german design team - they knew what they where doing.

thanks guys

check all the vacuum pipes.
check the small aluminium block in the water system with 4 wires coming out of it (it's to the right of the carb).
the autochoke works of the water temperature so you need to check your coolant (replace it if it's more than a year old) and get the correct amount of antifreeze in there (good to do at this time of year anyway)
then check everything is tight around the autochoke body and cross over bar.
do this first while i think of what else to check :mrgreen:


do you know about needing the push the pedel down twice before starting the car to get the autochoke on correctly.

cheers novo,

good tip about the coolant, i replaced a pipe in the summer and never really got round to putting in the correct mix. i used some pink stuff from vw. would i be able to top up with any colour coolant or do i need to drain flush and top up with fresh? i suppose the easy thinkg to do would be to top up with vw pink coolant!

i know about the pedal pressing thing, but have always had better results not pressing the pedal at all! i'll try it again next time i have a really cold start.

do i need to remove the air filter housing to do the ceheck on the vacuum hoses, identify the alum block in the water system and check the cross over bar?

cheers
k

kileymitchell said

there is something else i have noticed. yesterday (one of the coldest mornings since april) i started the car fine and left the engine running whilst i scraped the ice from the windows. during this time ( aprox 2 mins) the car warmed up enough to pull away ok.

Also, during engine warm up, ie before the needle on the gauge reaches the first line. When turing right, especially on roundabouts the car seem to act like it has run out of fuel. could these be problems be connected? i think they are both carb related

 i don't want to start a weeber / pierburg debate, but  i agree with the original german design team - they knew what they where doing.

thanks guys

ice on the windows
                            wow thats early,ice this time of year

it's alot easier to do most things on a golf with the airbox removed.

cheers, i'll get to work asap,

i tried the "pressing the pedal twice" trick this morninig. the car cranked for slightly longer but fired and ticked over slightly better. still have slugish, spluttery first 3mins of driving thou.

cheers