Help - MOT fail on HC emissions - now fixed!
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The emissions readings for CO2 were fine at 0.30, but the HC reading was 1547ppm, and the limit is 1200. Last year passed fine well within limits IIRC.
Since last year just done 1500 miles and as background but don't know if relevant at all this is everything done to car.
-new oil pump, pressure relief valve went on old one causing excessive pressure- cleaned out crankcase breather gauze as precaution when new pump fitted.
-new HT leads fitted last weekend.
-new custom stainless exhaust fitted.
-old air box had lots of holes drilled in to increase induction noise, but after fitting new exhuast couldn't hear this anymore so covered all the holes up, so now just draws in air from the standard inlet pipe.
car was last used in September, and it has sat in garage until last weekend when I started it up, to be fair did smell a bit of fumes but thought it was because it was enclosed in garage. As MOT had run out and not taxed , I wasn't able to give it much of a run to the MOT centre, just about 2 miles down the dual carriageway.
since getting the fail today, I did give it a slightly extended route back home and ran it as 5000rpm for couple of miles. I have done some searching on here, and so far checked/done-
- removed plugs and all same light brown colour, so thought this might rule out the HT leads being at fault?
-checked all the vacuum pipes for splits and tight joints.
-removed fuel meter head rubber cover and the metal flap inside seemed in okay condition, but gave good squirt of carb cleaner that I used last year when getting car out of it's long hibernation.
So, as I won't be able to check the readings until it goes for its next test on 9april as I don't have any equipment to test, what else can I do to up the chances of a pass. Realise the garage may do a few bits to try and get it down - they didn't today as it also has to go back for a new ball joint as failed on this also.
have read about the 5th injector - could the wiring just be disconnected to stop it working - realise would give some cold start issues possibly, but only use in summer months?
finally - just to mention that has a Kent Cam fitted so never idles perfectly anyway, but garage did say engine seemed to be hunting a bit.
There we are then, sorry if it's a bit of a ramble but thought it might help the experts out there - plus remember I don't have much mechanical knowledge or tools to do some more in depth checks - do have a multi meter but no idea how to use it!
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Would that make one of the plugs be a bit black and damp though, as they all look same? although I have only done a few miles. I have all the old leads so can put them back on.paul_c said
Sounds like a dodgy plug lead. Find by elimination.
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Although the CO is a pass it looks like it's running very lean to me. Not sure if that has a knock-on affect on HC though?
From memory the ideal CO is about 0.8-1.2
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If I recall also internal oil leaks could cause high HC? But doubt that's an issue with yours esp. as plugs all OK.
I'd say take it for a spanking and get mixture looked at if still high on HC. What were the figures on last year's MOT?
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Will defo put the old plug leads back on, it's a real pain that you are only legal to go to MOT station when the tax and MOT have run out, however I have a plan to accidentally miss the slip road on the dual carriage way and then it's an 8 mile round trip to get back!
I know you will say what are the chances of getting stopped, but just this morning went a different way out of village and there sat a police car having pulled someone over - never seen one on that piece of road all year!.
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Sorry no idea, all I know when it was fitted about 10k ago, they fitted an adjustable vernier pulley to help set the timing??dubboy said
Your high lift cam is not helping. What is your ignition timing set at?
As mentioned dont have last years MOT figures, but the one before that way back in 2000 has CO2 as 2.82 (but HC -as 92 which surely isn't right, but it is handwritten, not a print out ) so hoping that getting it moved from 0.30 up to something like 1.5 might be enough along with the old HT Leads- what do you think?
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mark1gls said
What's the air filter like?
New last year so only 1500 miles, will check not got too dirty for any reason.
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If you do get stopped on the way, the police can call the MOT station to check you have pre-booked - of course if the car has an obvious serious defect you can still get done for it, but then that could happen anytime, MOT or not.
Good luck
Lee
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It had a leak on inlet manifold that made it idle rough, although ran fine when under way at higher revs. The air/fuel mixture was being upset and running far too lean on at least 1 cylinder.
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