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running bike carbs on a 1.3

firstly bargin yes! so long as they are not screwed!
secoundly your know it all mate(don't we all know one of them) can kiss my arse and suck my balls(hows that for technical), because it can be done, it has been done(see matt-mk1) on here, and you will not blow your engine if you do it correctly. their is a firm(bogg brothers, in york) who specialize in this conversion, they have done micra(1l) and everything up from that.
have a look through the old threads on here, and links to other forums, i've heard of 1300 putting out 100hp on the pierburg, their are polo owners doing the same thing, and the suzuki swift boys have been slapping bike carbs on ages.
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:lol:  :lol:  yup thats what i more or less said to him! any other things i have to uprate? what you mean if i do it right?
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really you need to use a rolling road with someone whos knows their way around carbs. however i have come across a diy guide on the swift forum for home setup(i'll edit and add a link soon). but, if you get the mixture too weak you can easily do some damage to your engine very quickly.
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cool, think ill go that way and get it set up on the rolling road, best bet anyway!. the other thing ive just thought of is have they got chokes on these carbs?? auto or manual? how do i go about puting the choke on these r6 carbs?
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hello,

ive been caught by the bike carb bug. my friend with a 1.1 has just bought a set of bike carbs off ebay. just a quick question about chokes. how do the bike carbs run from cold? is it enough for the bigger car engine?

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So….

As a base guideline…

What jets are fitted to your R6 Carbs Dan? In order to get a car up and running…


I have been toying with tuning our 1300… Now a 325cc thanks to some bent valves…. And the bike carbs sem to be going for cheep money.

I should be able to fabricate my own manifold too, so when I put it back together I coul put some Bikers on it ;)

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i phoned bogg brothers a minago, 237 for the manifold and strip and clean/jet the carbs and fix them onto the manifold with the silicone hoses. he said they have a choke on them so you have to have a choke cable goin into the car otherwise in the cold they will no0t start unless you have the choke on.
willlet you know how i get on people!
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That's not bad realy, when you thinkg a pair of 45's is gona cost ?400+ on their own…

Would be good to see what the figures are.

I am also considering Bike throttle bodies with megasquirt'n'spark…

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right i found out today when i went bk to work of my lucn, after speaking to my collegue who is a trained engineer, and got bk into the old car scene. he said if i want to get it on and running for now untill i can save up for the custom manifold, if i get an old inlet hell cut and make it fit my carbs. with the aid of silicone hoses. etc. is this going to work or shall i just wait till i can afford the manifold.

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its really not ideal.  because of the spacing of the carbs compared to the inlet spacing on the engine. think you best bet is just to use a single carb until you can afford the manifold.

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custom manifold is the better route, nice clean straight run for the air/fuel mix straight into the engine. i have weighed up cutting a scrap manifold down, but the way they are cast means a high chance of warping as they are tig welded.
excellent quote from bogg bro's, this conversion when compared to any other is such good value, and its a pretty exclusive club to be in :D
mine are gsxr's(jetted to 135 but too lean), which happen to have a near identical port spacing as my head.

si (and anyone else interested) have a look at these books, by the time your finished you'll be able to silence any 'pub expert'

dave walkers engine management manual(optimising cabs, fuel injection and ignition) by haynes
motorcycle fuel systems tech book(carb and injection) by haynes
practical peformance car magazine best read out there! 8)
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Yet another follower of the bike carb philosophy!

Got mine on the 'bay for ?1 (plus a bit of P&P) - CBR 1000 carbs.

Spacing is a bit off as they are mounted in 2 banks of 2, so I think I'm going to need to strip down and re bank them…
Plan was to put them on  KR valver I was given but the engine is knackered, so on the look out for another KR lump!

I have cut down the lower part of the KR inlet manifold which has given me a good start point to make up a custom job to fit the carbs - with tubing as already said…

Don't know how I managed to miss this post so far, but I will keep an eye on it now!!!

AL.

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lol, yea ill try and get hold of some of them books, will keepyou all informed with what is happening and any cheap alternatives etc i can find out.

come on people lets get a load of carb conversions on the go!  :lol:

thanks for all the info so far guys much much appreciated,
simon

p.s. i wudnt mind going to some vdubb shows, but at the mo my cars abit multi coloured, ( shiny black bodywork, matt black doors and tailgate, and a red bbs body kit,  :lol:) so i think id look a plonker at the mo, but any shows cuming up please let me know as ive forkd out 2grand  :banghead:  :banghead:  to insure the multicolourd beast i wana get about in it!
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sim0n_parker said

p.s. i wudnt mind going to some vdubb shows, but at the mo my cars abit multi coloured, ( shiny black bodywork, matt black doors and tailgate, and a red bbs body kit,  :lol:) so i think id look a plonker at the mo…

Don't worry about that! Its a work in progress - Any one will see that (honest!).

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bike carbs

hi iv got a 1.1`mk1 golf and have just purchaced a set of cbr600 carbs, just wondering if u had any incaling into how much more if any power it will be giving me,

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seen a few people mention you have to uprate your fuel pump, will i need to, or will it cope as it is on the standerd one for time being, or sahall i do this when i put the carbs on,  what sort of fuel pump should i go for etc, some one mentiond an ftp?? tfp? cant remember what it was suming like that anyway,
thanks alot and sorry once again for being abit useless.

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no probs AL the thread was previously running on the small block section until the moderator hijacked our little coversation and moved it here :)

si i personally think the standard pump is up to the job(what engine are you running) along with presure reg. only 2 or 3 psi needed.
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easy people!
im running the 1300cc out of the mk2 golf, fuel pump was replaced about 2years ago b4 it came of the road, so only done about 800 odd miles if that! and only just got it bkon the road about 2 wks ago,
i was thinking on gewtting a filter king fuel filter/ pressure regulater when the carbs and that go on anyway.
but i wana do the job properly not worth skimping and saving then finding out you brake down a few miles down the road if you know what i mean.
many thanks matey
simon

p.s. ive only been a member on here about 2wks, and your all so very helpfull and made me feal welcome! top stuff guys/girls! wicked site! keep up the good work!
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Just get an electric pump suitable for engine bay instalation.

(sim0n_parker) TPS Throttle Position Sensor. not needed generaly.

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Alright guys, just a little pointer.
Any one making their own manifold will have to concider the length of the runners. The length will predetermin at what rpm the power and torque will come in. Best bet is to find some one who has bought a manifold and copy that length.

Sorry for sticking my nose in, i just thought it would help.
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