Original Hot hatch???
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Original Hot hatch???
Is this chap talking tosh, or does anyone know which car he could be talking about??
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I believe its the Alfasud Ti that claims to be the original hot hatch. The Ti version came out in '73.
Forgot about the Alfa… mind you, they had all rusted away by 1976
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Caudy said
I believe its the Alfasud Ti that claims to be the original hot hatch. The Ti version came out in '73.
Forgot about the Alfa… mind you, they had all rusted away by 1976![]()
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dubboy said
Start of production dates:
Golf GTi - June 1976
Chevette HS - November 1976
Sunbeam TI and Lotus - 1979
The Golf GTi was FIRST!
I think (unsure) the Renault 5 Gordini was launched before the Golf GTI, and thus could claim to be the very first hot hatch.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_5_Alpine
Early Alfasuds were 2 door (not hatchback).
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Caudy said
was the R5 Gordini not a rally homologation special, limited production run and all that?
You're thinking about the R5 Gordini Turbo, which was a mid-engined rally special. The R5 Gordini (Alpine on the continent) was their 'regular' production hot hatch.
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Some chap who I've never spoken before in my office came over the other day as he'd seen me getting out of my golf. He said that the MK1 golf being the original Hot Hatch wasn't strictly true and another manufacturer had one out before VW.
Sounds like he's jealous, presumably he had to go out and drive home in his bland Vauxhell/Ford rubbish.
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susan-and-noddy said
yep the Renault 5 Gordini was out befour the gti and im sure there wont be many of them around at all they rotted like hell also what about the rocco that was out befour the golf :dontknow:
The Scirocco was a coupe, not a hatchback. In any case, the GLi (fuel injection 1600) came out in 1979, 3 years after the Golf GTI.
The Golf isn't the first cheap sporty car, its not the first hot hatch either, but its the one which had no flaws and was big enough to be considered a 'family' car too (in its day) - something the Renault 5 is too small to claim. Its interesting looking back over time, that many other manufacturers were planning to do the same thing (Escort XR3, Vauxhall GTE, etc) and its by chance that VW did it first, and is thus accredited for being the 'original' hot hatch.
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