1.8 GTI vs 1.6 Saxo
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1.8 GTI vs 1.6 Saxo
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The Golf MK1 1800 does 0 to 60 in 8.5
What did Citroen build in in the early eighties that did 0 to 60 in 8.5 seconds ? Has a masive following today and has been copied by every other manufacturer ? 2CV ?
Saxo racing !!
Kate tell your mate at work to bring there classic 80's Citroen and race that.
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A VTS has a faster 0-60 time but so what.
It has a lot to do with gear ratio's as first is really short on a MK1 GTI.
I would say its a different story when you're rolling.
Down a back road you're going to be hard pushed to keep up with a golf 1.8 or 1.6 GTI. :wink:
A VTS would probably be quicker on track. Quite possibly due to their wheel setup. I think VW got the wheel and tyres wrong for the gti. In my opinion 15's are better for getting the power down. My standard 1.6 can't transfer the power efficiently when performing a standing start. It has understeer problems with slow tight bends as well. I feel 15' would balance it up and give her more grip. But that would be breaking the rules to keep it standard so skinny ass, sketchy tyres it is.
Driving a VTS I'm less confident when pushing them to their limit. They have a nasty habit of "yeah I'm cool taking the corner at this speed……yeah still cool……Uh O maybe not 8O " then suddenly become unsprung and kick out violently. 205's share this phenomenon. Nasty torsion bars! :evil: Golfs are more gradual, predictable, less sketchy and ultimately more fun to drive on the limit. :wink:
Which is quicker a Saxo VTS (a newer 16v engine) and a 1.8 MK1 (old 8v engine)? The Saxo but VTS's are a hell of a lot younger than the MK1 GTI's and have different engine technologies (the main difference twice the number of valves), therefore it is unfair to compare the two.
Surely a fairer comparison would be the VTR (8v) against a 1.6 (also 8v) MK1. My moneys on the Dub.
Golfs have far more character, are much cooler and are more fun to drive.
Therefore Golfs win.
Kate tell your friend "nerr nerr na nerr nerr!" from me!
I used to own a mk1 - well I've had 2 actually - YDU 720X & SMU 420Y. Currently I drive an 98 Scotia White Mitsubishi Evolution V RS…. fancy getting another mk1 someday
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Andy
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1962 Rover P4 80
2002 BMW 745i
2008 BMW Z4 2.5Si
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oh yeah
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I'll also be up for that bet….? 50 if its still about in the same number as mk1's are today.
It may be quicker to 60 but at the end of the day its still $hitroen
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Most little french cars I've been (friends saxo, brothers 106 - aren't they the same floor pans?) tend to have interior bits that start breaking of them as well electrical faults despite being only a couple years old. In the past the french have often built good strong engines, but struggled to build a car round them to match. How many 80's Citroens do you see still on the roads compared to 80s VWs? - I know what one I'll take :wink: .
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Hardly surprising really, it has a more modern engine, far better brakes and 20 years of handling expertise advantage over the mk1 in terms of technology.
I've driven one (and my wife used to have a Peugeot 106 GTI which is pretty much the same thing before she was forced to see the light) and they are a hoot and I think quite a good modern version of what a hot hatch would be, I'd have one over a mk3 or mk4 Golf for 'fun'……. common as muck though. 8)
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Drew.
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I'd say there'll be…. mmmmmm none on the road in the next 5 years. Go down the street in a mk1 golf and everyone will look….. who looks at a chav'd up saxo/corsa/106??????????????no-one. they're the scrap mans best friend..
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Why is this even being debated - the saxo is the smallest load of rubbish ever committed to tarmac….
I'd say there'll be…. mmmmmm none on the road in the next 5 years. Go down the street in a mk1 golf and everyone will look….. who looks at a chav'd up saxo/corsa/106??????????????no-one. they're the scrap mans best friend..
I beg to differ tho! I reckon they'll be plenty about as when there are no old Novas/Corsas left to glue big front air dams and wings to they'll naturally start using the Saxos!! :wink:
Andy
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1983 MK1 Golf GTI Campaign Model - Under (looooong) resto!
1962 Rover P4 80
2002 BMW 745i
2008 BMW Z4 2.5Si
LINCOLNSHIRE REGION - https://www.facebook.com/groups/467122313360002/
1983 MK1 Golf GTI Campaign Model - Under (looooong) resto!
1962 Rover P4 80
2002 BMW 745i
2008 BMW Z4 2.5Si
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